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Old 12-20-2012   #21
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Restrac nailed it.

But look at it another way -- winter permits are pretty easy to get. Every year a small number of dates actually go unclaimed.

For instance, this week there are lottery dates available for: January 31, February 28, and March 3 and 7. Get your lottery application in by noon today, and there's a decent chance you can do a trip on your own terms, not someone else's.


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Old 12-20-2012   #22
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Looking at this NOAA National Weather Service report for Phantom Ranch may be useful.

I see rain and highs in the 40's coming up in the next week at Phantom Ranch -- not atypical for the dead of winter down there. Yeah, it says "sunny"for a few of those days, but in the depths of the gorge, fat chance you're going to enjoy that for long. Then I think about running Horn, Granite, Hermit, and Crystal in that next stretch of river -- without a dry suit -- and I ponder how much fun that's going to be for passengers. Heck, from where I sit (concededly at age 65 and greatly diminished in metabolic resilience) I don't think it would be fun for the boatman either.

Reconsider my friend, if they don't seriously tighten up their game.


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