Originally Posted by whitewaterjunkie
I know that the new regs stipulate that we may only run the canyon once every calendar year.
...Any feedback would be much appreciated.
A) You're using a public forum (where you've got a photo of yourself posted and state your hometown as Fort Collins, CO) that is monitored by law enforcement personnel and thousands of boaters to ask advice whether you should knowingly cheat a Federal river permit system that's one of the most strict in the country.
B) The system you are publicly asking about cheating is one that some boaters have spent huge portions of their lives and large amounts of their personal resources getting into place. Alot of those folks are people who, under the old system, have the connections in the boating world to get hooked up with trips along with the ability to take two trips or more yearly. Those people, primarily in organizations like AW and GCPBA, traveled all across the country to attend meetings, spent large sums of their own money, and put the common good of the boating community ahead of their own interests because it resulted in greater access for more boaters.
C) Should you decide to scam the system, your actions have the potential for people who've spent enormous effort and money getting a GC trip together to be at risk of spending what's supposed to be their first night of a lifetime experience right back in the motel in Flagstaff facing a big fine and/or exclusion from being able to get on the river again.
D) You have the potential of being charged with fraud and prosecuted in Federal courts.
E) By committing to more than one of the trips, one of the Trip Leaders who has been generous enough to invite you along is busting their ass getting the trip together and wasting their trip-planning brain cells by saving a spot on their trip for a person that won't even be able to go when they could be extending the invitation to someone that is considerate of their situation and has integtrity.
So here's your feedback you asked for:
You're an idiot and you're also inconsiderate of others. If I were one of the TLs that offered you a spot on my permit, you'd get bounced quicker than you could say, "but I wasn't really planning to do it if people on Mountainbuzz said it was stupid!"