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Old 09-05-2007   #1
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Gauge question - Barrel Springs

So, with the powerplant down, is this the true flow through here? Or, do we use the old subtraction from Sho Sho?


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Old 09-05-2007   #2
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When I drove through Glenwood Canyon on Monday AM two of the gates on the dam were full open so I would imagine that it's the full flow. There isn't any water going through the power plant so it has to be coming through Barrel.

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Old 09-05-2007   #3
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as of Tuesday PM it was looking good to go with the gates down
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Old 09-05-2007   #4
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Full flow, looks like 1600cfs was running through there the other day.
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Old 09-05-2007   #5
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So how does the run compare (from Life After Death down) to Gore? I've done Gore once, portaging the V-minuses, planning to run them Sunday. I'd definitely put in at LAD or get back in my car and go camp at Pumphouse early. But I'm wondering if I shouldn't give this a try. If anyone's going... and you want to tempt me, let me know.
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Old 09-05-2007   #6
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I think Barrel is more stout than anything on Gore. Maybe a little easier than running the meat on Gore but definitely harder than the sneak lines. One of the main reasons I say this is because at the end of Barrel Springs rapid there is a rock pile that you would not want to swim or be upside down and you must be in control to miss it. Even so, barrel is lots of fun and a great roadside rapid.

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Old 09-05-2007   #7
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it is running full flow, i have been running it every weekend since the pipes broke
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Normally we subtract 800, right?

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I think the normal subtraction was 1250...and 1400 is the max. The power plant has a senior water claim to 1250 and an additional junior claim to 158 cfs. The plant has two 700 cfs turbines for a max of 1400 cfs diverted.
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Old 09-07-2007   #10
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In reference to Barrel Springs vs. Gore Canyon...

I think Barrel Springs at 2000 cfs was the longest, toughest "big water" rapid I have ever run in Colorado. In my little boat, it felt like I was in a major storm in an ocean, with very diminished control over what happened.

But what is interesting is that my friend in his big creek boat said he felt the same way. I ran Barrel Springs 4 times that season, with it getting a little lower each time, but it always felt serious and never got "easy."

I will no longer drive to Glenwood from Summit just for Shoshone, but Barrel makes it a memorable and exciting trip.

I still haven't run the meat in my small boat at Gore Rapid, but in general I would say Barrel Springs is significantly tougher to me than anything in Gore.

I ended up running Barrel before Gore, and it probably was a good confidence builder for Gore, but ideally I think Barrel is best as a progression after Gore.

With good guidance and the right lines, and after already having gone into Gore as you stated you had, personally I would be inclined to stay with Gore Canyon a while and build on what you are doing there.

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