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08-29-2011
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Boise, Idaho
Join Date: Aug 2010
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I was thinking that too...
So much time to travel around the world and run (and rerun and rerun) the shit for shots, coupled with the insanely and ridiculously awesome shit they're actually running... equals bomber footage.
There's a reason you don't see dope kayak porn on your local class III river.
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08-30-2011
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God Amongst Men
g-spot, Colorado
Paddling Since: 1845
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,626
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i agree that to a point its made better by what they are running....
but my opinion is still that the quality of the film is still greatly influenced by those behind the lens, and those who are setting up the shots.
ive seen some incredible segments and short films come from class III sections that were shot on a $200 sony cam. likewise, a friend of mine spent $4,000 on a fancy ass camera with all the bells and whistles four years ago, and has thus far to date produced three segments that are mediocre at best. you can have the highest quality camera, the widest array of lenses, the most expensive light meter, blah blah blah, all you want......but if you dont have a good eye for filming then its not going to come together.
you can take a shot of a guy dropping a 65' waterfall and its going to look sick, any way you put it. but to blend together a movie of any length with many different shots of different rivers and creeks and lifestyle shots, takes a keen eye to come away with different and new shots all the time. framing the waterfall between two tree branches. zooming in so it goes from blurry to focused right as the guy comes off the lip. panning in from looking away. having someone dancing next to the waterfall right before someone else goes off.
its not about just fading in and fading out and utilizing your basic barn door and slide away transitions. putting lots of clips together in a way that they dont get boring, and constantly draws your attention in, is the key to making a great video. the technology helps, and the ability to go run these stout browns all the time helps too, but so much of what you see is a result of the creativity that comes from within.
Take the LW segment in the PacNW segment for example. It's hilarious, and it's a great segment. Why? They took time to set up the shots. There's a great shot where the pan around and then capture a guy boofing. The dancing is all super funny, but more importantly, well placed and situated. There's a great shot of them blue angel-ing over a drop. The close up intros of each one of them is great. They could have stuck together a bunch of shots of the river itself, over and over, and yeah, it would have been good kayaking. But to take the time and set up all the other shots, the dancing, the browning, the lifestyle.....it took creativity and the willingness to set up those shots. It wasn't 100% kayaking, it was 70% kayaking and 30% cinematography that made that segment look really good.
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08-30-2011
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FRST
Denver, Colorado
Paddling Since: 2004
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 42
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Haha ya their edits make mine look like shit! I got a decent camera and final cut. I'm 17 and didn't have a job this summer so I just kayaked... this didn't make me be able to put together sick edits like them. Even if nobody had to work, 99.9999% of people would never run or think about running the shit that they do. While I'm stuck in school I am so damn grateful that I can get through the day by putting these videos on repeat! It ain't technology and a lack of responsibilities that make these videos. Its balls, skills, and just general epicness. And thank god for ridiculous things people say on mountainbuzz... gotta get my comedy for the day too!
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08-30-2011
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#14
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Bozeman, Montana
Paddling Since: 1999
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 5,369
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zooming in so it goes from blurry to focused right as the guy comes off the lip. panning in from looking away.. this takes a good camera with 1080hd capabile no 200 dollar camera. you can try doin shots with any other and its not the same. plus multiple go pros make it ten times easier. whos going actually take it off your helmet cam in the middle of the run that just slows the group down more. to get those type of shots on that many rivers you have to have your main priority as Kayaking. I think its kick ass these guys get to live that lifestyle but its not for everybody. Im hoping to buy a new Camera and a Apple to edit videos on. because in order to create a good edit you must have powerful tools specilly for a 30 minute movie.. desk top pcs dont have the power, apples are specialized in that.. so you talking about 4 g's in gear not talking lenses. personally i need a new kayak, new drysuit, breakdown paddle, new helmet, new shoes, new playboat,, so you can see my main priority of paying gas is what my income basically goes to keep kayaking, the main reason im going places. camera or airline ticket is the next priority ill opt for the ticket anyday.
plus its garcia you expect anything less. he's been firing shit up since he waas filming with Rush lots of porn knowledge there
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08-30-2011
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#15
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Golden, Colorado
Paddling Since: 1996
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 187
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BOMB FLOW IS THE SHIT! EG and Gnarquist are my buddies and trust me, they spend countless hours going over footage and getting footage before the final cut. For every minute you watch, they literally went through hours of footage. Demshitz run the stout browns all day and then party all night. It's not only the kayaking, it's the lifestyle and being able to portray that to the masses via media. In addition, Bomb Flow isn't just free kayak porn online, it's also the newest whitewater magazine that they put together. So go out and subscribe to Bomb Flow and tell your local shops to carry Bomb Flow. That way these guys can keep hucking the shit and telling the story of whitewater kayaking. It's only going to get bigger and better, DEMSHITZ RULEZ MANY BROWN STOUTS TO ALL!!!!
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08-30-2011
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Spits Hot Fire
N. Cascades, Washington
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 982
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I'd like to see more star fades in and out à la Homer Simpson. Make it happen, youshitz.
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09-14-2011
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#17
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Fort Collins, Colorado
Paddling Since: 2008
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 641
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09-14-2011
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#18
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Bellingham, Washington
Paddling Since: 2007
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 20
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Best one yet in my opinion. Good call on the tunes
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10-18-2011
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#19
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Fort Collins, Colorado
Paddling Since: 2008
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 641
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10-19-2011
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#20
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Beaverton, Oregon
Paddling Since: 2005
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 498
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Quote:
Originally Posted by smauk2
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Crap, there went my morning.
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