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Old 07-14-2006   #1
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foot entrapment?

So I was wondering if anyone out there could describe how you would rescue someone who "penciled" over a drop and got a foot entrapment at the bottom of the drop? I know the standard method of a foot entrapment rescue you set up a stabilization line then with another line you try and pull their feet free. But if it was a good drop they could be under water or just due to the drop it may not be feasible to pull their feet upstream... is it possible to make it a rescue or is it a recovery?

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Old 07-15-2006   #2
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A foot entrapment generally requires some downstream force in the water. It sounds to me like you are describing a swimmer foot-entrapped in the curtain itself, which I think would be awfully rare, if even possible due to the water dynamics. If you pencil in as a swimmer and got a foot stuck, it would probably be just downstream of the curtain, in which case the standard technique would apply.

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Old 07-18-2006   #3
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I only asked as I heard about this happening in the royal gorge a few years ago...
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Old 07-20-2006   #4
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Check out this totally cool and amazing piece of new technolgy for swiftwater rescue..
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Old 07-21-2006   #5
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Great advice Swimstar... buy this piece of gear it will magically save anyone... I don't need gear and I really don't see how this would help someone caught underwater... maybe I could ease their pain by nocking them out with the grappling hook....
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Old 07-21-2006   #6
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maybe I could ease their pain by nocking them out with the grappling hook

I can see a Nealy cartoon with a spider web of crosslines capturing swimmers, boats, trout, sea turtles, etc.
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Old 07-21-2006   #7
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Hey brah... it wasn't advice. Just sharing a little info on some new gear. Since you don't need gear maybe you should just paddle without a helmet and knock YOURSELF out.....Seems to me with comments like that you need all the help you can get in this world.....Mr. too cool for school
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Old 07-21-2006   #9
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I agree with Swimstar.
Share the love.....or info with fellow paddlers.

I can see how this might work.

If a trapped boater (pinned in a kayak, foot entrapped, etc.) jettisons their bag, the floating line and bag deploy downstream – up to 65 feet. The Reach Device stays attached to the victim's strong swimmer's belt, (and those on shore or in another boat throw their Reach Device across the floating line. The Reach Device clips the line, captures it, and the rescuer has a secure line to the victim with which to quickly assist their escape.
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Old 07-22-2006   #10
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so Sorry if I sounded argumentative earlier I was recovering from abig night of boozing and a big fight with the misses... All I was saying is I was asking about techniques not gear... I think the crossline has potential but I allready knew that I was looking for techniques not equipment the previously mentioned with the boater jettisoning their own rope sounded great but I was thinking mor along th lines of a comercial rafter. I really meant no offense to swimstar just in my intoxicated haze I percieved the simpl suggestion of looking at gear as a post posing to be part of the community who was really only trying to sell something which I've seen frequently on this magnificent information highway...

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