Originally Posted by caspermike
All those rocks will be covered with a small amount of water and than the gradient disappears. Good to know what's below the surface though..
Indeed. The gradient is short lived and mostly in the top of the canyon, but for someone looking for variety it might just be a fun run....
Originally Posted by cayo 2
That little gorge is kinda' cool but way short . There seems to be another similar one a little down river on private property .The run down to the South Platte definitely has gradient ,at least in parts. I have a video [vhs /vcr] with a short segment of it being run. It's either Gary E. or Paul Teftt. Manky 4-5. Might be worth exploring for adventurous class IV boaters with a portage or two,but is in the junk category with GrapeCreek, Lefthand, or Jemez to most class V boaters. One man's trash is another man's treasure . I like stuff like that, but it is more for the adventure than quality boating. Your main obstacle will be flow,before tributaries join the flow across ranch land and what little there is gets badly depleted.
If you are motivated explore the St. Charles,a run has been done and reported to have a little advanced whitewater ....don't know where ...not too far from you...Shelf road ? ....Beaver Creek off Pikes Peak ? ok maybe not, 1st D attempters rescued by helicopter....
After looking things over on the maps and satellite this canyon seemed to be the only one on Tarryall that wasn't either predominately flat-water, or mostly V-VI. Plus it runs along the edge of the Lost Creek Wilderness... I am not saying this is a worthy destination for boaters traveling from anywhere, but perhaps a good alternative for local boaters who want more variety. I could see spending a night camped at the put-in...doing a couple laps in the canyon and partying........you know, something different.
And there isn't too much water diverted above this stretch, some in the flats near Como and Jefferson, but a good portion of their diversions returns to the creek. Michigan Creek (the other major tributary) comes in above Tarryall Res, and there is a small diversion for Bayou Salodo Res....other than that it's all native flow.
I am also interested in Grape Creek. Not the Temple Canyon stretch that everyone always talks about, but running from the outflow of Deweese to the Temple Canyon bridge as a 2-3 day, class 2-3 self support kayak trip. Looks like a pretty canyon through changing ecosystems.