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Old 04-17-2008   #21
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Old 04-17-2008   #22
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One thing that I have noticed about the Robideau Gauge is that it takes a while to start rising when it gets warm and takes a while to drop when it cools off. We ran Escalante last year when Robideau was at 210 and the flow was really low, but the flow was dropping. What I am getting at is that I think that there is a lag of a half day to a day. I would guess that the Robideau Gauge is very near the confluence with the Gunnision. The Escalate run is a bit upstream (think of the long drive up that dirt road). Anyway, I'm going up to research the issue further this weekend. I'm pretty sure it will be running fine by Saturday.


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Old 04-17-2008   #23
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Yo. Yeah, we were there on the 15th, before the bump. Based on the gauge and Montrose weather reports, I wasn't going to go, but Hotze said it was running without even going near it. He also says that particular gauge is complete crap with no real corellation because it has all kinds of irrigation ditches and diversions. My new recommendation is to make enough friends to find a local reccomendation, because that's the only thing I've seen work. Valiant effort though.
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Old 04-17-2008   #24
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Lag time could impact it. Not a large distance though. Diversions will definitely impact the roubideau. This is a one way street though. The gauge can read lower than actual total flows, but should never read more. So if the roubideau is kicking ass and rising, you can expect escalante to be doing the same.

Visual / local is the best bet, without a doubt. Roubideau and other gauges in the area are more data to help make the desicion.

As for the guage being crap with no correlation, I disagree. The data doesn't lie and there was a stong correlation for both 2007 and 2005. Perhaps it was crap in other years.

From the data I pulled from those two years it seemed like 150 and up was min, and 200 was in the low range. Pretty close to what the tuesday crew got.

My take is that the roubideau is still a good tool to use. A mid week visual plus a rising roubideau gauge gives paddlers driving a long way some confidence that they won't get skunked. I might be tempted to just stop at Gore coming from the front range if I were unsure.

I'll tally the data when the season is said and done and report back on the guage correlation for this year and we'll let the data speak for itself.
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Old 04-18-2008   #25
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ba bump. anyone got a visual? bueller bueller...
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Old 04-18-2008   #26
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Ran it yesterday. The 57 Chevy fin was completely covered, so medium/medium-high level? Will run it again on Monday if anyone is interested.

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Old 04-18-2008   #27
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San Miguel at brooks bridge

Roubi is basically a little flow from the creek and a lot of flows from canals that intersect it way before the reading that is supposedly the barometer. Irrigation plays a huge role in it's highs and lows.
When the San miguel is low at saw pit and hitting a g at brooks bridge every night you know the feeder creeks, which are melting from the same elevations as scandalante, are roostin'. When the ledges starts going over a grand every night you know it's going to kick ass on the other side of the plateau too.
Hope this helps!

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