I have carried my 20D along with several lenses in the raft for years. A 10-22, a 28-75 f/2.8 and a 70-200 f/4. If you want sellable images and rapid fire sequences this is the route to take. However - including the peli-type case this is about 20-25 lbs, almost as much cash as a raft, and can be a real pain in the ass. I no longer sell my pictures and I have been selling my gear and replacing it with far cheaper, smaller and more portable stuff so my photography doesn't get in the way of my adventures. If i was going to stay with a DSLR I would get a 18-200mm type lens for most uses. Personally I eventually found that I wasn't taking my camera with me because it was expensive, not waterproof, bulky and heavy - and I missed out on a lot of great photos because of those limitations.
A body & lens (without battery grip or extra lenses) can fit in a pretty small peli, and now you can get a body (50D) & an 18-200 for less than $1150 new.
No need for the second mortgage these days!!
Don't miss any more shots!
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Shoots RAW. (Huge benefit with harsh shadows, bright glare, etc...)
Only downside is slow frame rate (1.3 fps). Not good enough if you want to shoot action sequences. If this is the case--simply pick the Nikon or Canon that has the highest FPS and is within your budget. You really can't go wrong with Canon or Nikon SLRs.
Whatever you decide--B&H has unbeatable service and prices. If you find a better price, unless it's Adorama or shipped directly from Amazon, it's likely a used or gray market scam.
Shoots RAW. (Huge benefit with harsh shadows, bright glare, etc...)
Only downside is slow frame rate (1.3 fps). Not good enough if you want to shoot action sequences. If this is the case--simply pick the Nikon or Canon that has the highest FPS and is within your budget. You really can't go wrong with Canon or Nikon SLRs.
Whatever you decide--B&H has unbeatable service and prices. If you find a better price, unless it's Adorama or shipped directly from Amazon, it's likely a used or gray market scam.
Agree with everything else, but grey market is not a "scam" it's a way to buy a camera for a significant amount less than you'll find it for @ B&H. I have bought me last 3 bodies grey & found a number of grey's for friends & none of us have had any issues with them. You still have a warranty, you just can't bring it to best buy to get it fixed. btw, paid $920 for my 50D when it was a new release, very happy with it.
Many of the companies in NY will give you an option of grey or US with usually a $150-250 difference in price. Plenty of scams out there in the electronics world, so be careful, but it IS possible to save a few bucks without getting screwed.
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Agree with everything else, but grey market is not a "scam" it's a way to buy a camera for a significant amount less than you'll find it for @ B&H. I have bought me last 3 bodies grey & found a number of grey's for friends & none of us have had any issues with them. You still have a warranty, you just can't bring it to best buy to get it fixed. btw, paid $920 for my 50D when it was a new release, very happy with it.
Many of the companies in NY will give you an option of grey or US with usually a $150-250 difference in price. Plenty of scams out there in the electronics world, so be careful, but it IS possible to save a few bucks without getting screwed.
Everything you write is true. I didn't mean to imply that all gray market offers are scams. Poor phrasing on my part.
I was trying to communicate that many online vendors (especially in NY and surrounding areas) have numerous gray market scams, bait and switch scams and "too good to be true" cheap price scams. A quick search on a site like photo.net will fill you in on the details.
There is nothing wrong with gray market from B&H or Adorama. I would never buy gray market from anyone outside of those two or maybe Calumet or Samys. Another great store I've been using is SLC based pictureline.com. They will likely price match any of the major online stores I've mentioned. And they have great customer service.
As for gray market downsides, the only significant one is repairs. If you ever need a repair, it will likely take much, much longer to go through the retailer than if your gear had a US warranty from Canon or Nikon. As for Nikon--gray market Nikon lenses are NEVER worth the savings. USA Nikon lenses come with 5 year Nikon warranty. Gray market gear (including Nikon lenses) usually only come with 1 year, max.
So if you'd rather save some dough and are buying anything but a Nikon lens, like Waterwindpowderrock writes, gray market might be the way to go.
Just to add a couple, Also had good luck with tri-state photo & A&M photo.
Grey lenses aren't a significant savings, not worth the $20-40 you save (although lens repairs are rare)
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Everything you write is true. I didn't mean to imply that all gray market offers are scams. Poor phrasing on my part.
I was trying to communicate that many online vendors (especially in NY and surrounding areas) have numerous gray market scams, bait and switch scams and "too good to be true" cheap price scams. A quick search on a site like photo.net will fill you in on the details.
There is nothing wrong with gray market from B&H or Adorama. I would never buy gray market from anyone outside of those two or maybe Calumet or Samys. Another great store I've been using is SLC based pictureline.com. They will likely price match any of the major online stores I've mentioned. And they have great customer service.
As for gray market downsides, the only significant one is repairs. If you ever need a repair, it will likely take much, much longer to go through the retailer than if your gear had a US warranty from Canon or Nikon. As for Nikon--gray market Nikon lenses are NEVER worth the savings. USA Nikon lenses come with 5 year Nikon warranty. Gray market gear (including Nikon lenses) usually only come with 1 year, max.
So if you'd rather save some dough and are buying anything but a Nikon lens, like Waterwindpowderrock writes, gray market might be the way to go.
Good luck!
17th Street Photo Video is up there with B&H, I've got 1000s in both. +1 on saying cheaper deals than BH, Adorama, 17hstreet, are scams
Same camera, same warranty (us to us, neither is grey)
the difference is that A&M is going to try to sell you a battery, a charger, and other overpriced crap you don't need... say no, deal with the toolbag salesman... and save $270 for the same thing.
Over at tri-state you'll only save $75 from B&H but they don't try to upsell you at all. I bought the same camera for $920 from them a few months ago.
I have TENS of thousands at these retailers over my photo career, never once not gotten what I ordered, never once bought an overpriced card or battery. New york photo retailers are douchebags, order what you want & tell them to piss off when they try to upsell you.
You can be afraid of the other guys, but there ARE good deals out there, scaring people that aren't in the market regularly just costs them a lot of money.
Ask the kid (Reid) how much money he saved on his camera that I found for him.. still using it today I believe.
I'm not saying not to be careful, but it's retarded to pay a bunch more than you have to for the same stuff.
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And yeah, if I count home entertainment I'm past 10k, I'd suggest people read the reviews at resellerratings.com and avoid these other stores. The big box Manhattan stores have such high quality feedback for being honest and cheap and clearly not douchebags. I smell a shill when someone starts suggesting places with a very checkered sales history that has been plastered all over the net's various feedback sites.
I used to carry a SLR, but switched to a Fuji S5000 digital about 5 years ago. The body & grip have the "feel" of my old SLR, but lighter and slightly smaller. It has a 10 X zoom which gets the close-ups I want. With the Sport or Continuous mode, I can get good action shots. I keep a circular polarizer filter on it most of the time to cut down on glare from the water. I carry it in a Pelican case, strapped to my Cat frame, right where I can reach it easily. It takes very crisp shots with good color. I keep thinking about getting a newer model, but you know what they say ...... The enemy of good, is better.
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Just looking to get some opinions on what SLR's people are taking on the rivers with them. Interested in picking one up and while I have look at a few, would be cool to hear what paddlers are carrying with them as well.
And yeah, if I count home entertainment I'm past 10k, I'd suggest people read the reviews at resellerratings.com and avoid these other stores. The big box Manhattan stores have such high quality feedback for being honest and cheap and clearly not douchebags. I smell a shill when someone starts suggesting places with a very checkered sales history that has been plastered all over the net's various feedback sites.
Caveat Emptor.
Yeah, I live in Empire & shoot whitewater, I'm a shill for royal photo... says the guy from boulder with 12 posts.
Ok, I read the reviews of A&M, and I'll be honest I haven't dealt with them in probably 3 years but I bought my elan7, eos 3, 10d, 20d, a stack of lenses, and a few flashes from them & NEVER had a problem, but they may have been bought out by another company since then, not sure.
I deal with tri-state on a regular basis (bought my 30, 40, 50 and all recent lenses from them), still do, and wil continue doing so, never had a problem & they have treated me well and I have always recieved exactly what I ordered quickly.
Smell whatever you want, I'm here trying to explain to folks that if you deal with a little NY douche salesman for a couple seconds you can save yourself a decent chunk of money, you just have to be firm about what you want.
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