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Old 11-19-2008   #1
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drysuit opinions...

so I dont really want to beat a dead horse... or do I...?

I'm going down the Grand in January and looking for some advice. I'll be kayaking a hardshell and I'm wondering about the advantages of drysuits vs. bibs, then also which suit is right for me. I've been eyeing up the Kokatat GMER for a few years now, but wondering if I should save a few bucks and get a NRS or Palm suit of reasonable quality, or just a new pair of bibs and deal with the drytop I have now.

any advice from experienced boaters is appreciated.


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Old 11-19-2008   #2
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if you can afford the GMER then you should get it.

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Old 11-19-2008   #3
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Kokatat GMER is still the one everybody else tries to be. Best customer service I've ever dealt with, too.
So many rivers, so little time..........
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Old 11-19-2008   #4
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I'm waiting for my GMER to show up.
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Old 11-19-2008   #5
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Do a search and you'll turn up a number of discussions on the subject. General consensus from what I've seen is GMER is the best, Palm Stikine a close second. If they cost too much for your budget go for the Palm Torrent.
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Old 11-19-2008   #6
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My advice.....absolutely have a full drysuit! I just got off the Grand last Friday and we had decent weather almost everyday (mid 60's). But the sun was hard to come by this late in the year....we seemed to be continuously "chasing" the beams of sunlight around every corner. I was rowing and I still got a little chilly in my Palm drysuit. The water is cold and the sun is sparse when you get deep. I remember thinking how friggen cold I'd be if I was in my yak.....even with decent temps.

I have a Kokatat drytop and I would have a Kokatat drysuit if I hadn't received my Palm for free (won it at an event). I do LOVE my Palm, but I don't think the quality is as bomber as Kokatat (when I compare my drytop to drysuit).

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Old 11-19-2008   #7
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GMER with the booties and a piss zipper is the way to go. Of course the drysuit will keep you dry and warm which is a good thing on a winter trip. The other bonus is that your insulating layers underneath don't get wet, so you don't have to dry out wet gear every night. Just throw your drysuit on a line with the zipper and the gaskets hanging down so water doesn't get inside if it rains, and you will be dry all trip. Putting on wet gear in the morning blows, but its a thing of the past with a good drysuit.
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Old 11-19-2008   #8
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theres only one choice
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Old 11-19-2008   #9
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Thats not much of a choice then
I was going to be vague but then I decided to do this other thing.
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Old 11-20-2008   #10
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One piece with goretex booties. Grand is cold in winter. Pee zips tend to leak, wish I didn't have mine -- until I gotta go.

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