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Old 05-06-2007   #1
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Hey I was thinking of getting a drysuit but don't really have the cash and was wondering if anyone had any experience with using bibs mated with a dry top? I tried using dry pants for a while but they're really not so dry, I'd allways end up with water a fair amount of it in the pants which really isn't that good if you find yourself swimming, I'm pretty sure the water was coming in where the pants and top were mated, and was thinking that bibs might prevent this... Any thoughts?

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Old 05-07-2007   #2
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I purchased the Kokatat Tropos Whirlpool bibs this winter and love them.

Kokatat Watersports Wear - TROPOS Whirlpool Bib

They mate really well with at dry top. I took a swiftwater rescue course two weekends ago. We were standing in the water for a long time, my legs never got wet.

I won't say they are as dry as a drysuit, but I think for the money they are as close as you can get. I wear a NRS Mystery shirt under my drytop and it gets wet (due to the age of my drytop), but my legs stay dry.

The only thing I don't like about the bibs is there is no relief zipper. You basically have to take off your vest and drytop to drop the bibs down.

I've been in contact with Kokatat, they can add a relief zipper for $100 and I'd be without them for 2-3 weeks. I'm going to wait until the winter to do it.

The Kokatat Gore-Tex bibs come with a relief zipper (and booties) already installed, but they are $500, so you'd almost be better buying the NRS Drysuit for that.

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Old 05-07-2007   #3
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I have the Kokatat Tropos Whirlpool bibs as well. I've been really happy with them. I've only really tested them once in a swim last week, but the water was pretty pushy and I came out dry. One of my friends has the older version and has trouble with his not breathing very well, but I've had no issues with the Tropos material. For the price, it's a nice alternative to a drysuit.
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Old 05-07-2007   #4
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I've been creeking in a pair of goretex waders for the last several years. They do not "mate" with your drytop, but if your skirt and top fit well, very little water gets in if you swim. You will get damp. They will not fill up. Not that I would know or anyting. People look at you funny as you put them on, but once you are dressed, it looks ok. They are super warm and allow you to stand in the river with confidence. A relief zip would be nice, but hard to come by.

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Old 05-07-2007   #5
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I got a pair of the Kokatet Whirlpools too. I also bought a waterproof drysuit zipper on ebay for them. They work great. I should use them more.
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