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Old 08-17-2011   #21
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Ok. Now pull the plug so it drains down to 1.8 feet and try and flip that boat. A class 3 boater like myself has the skilz!!

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Old 08-18-2011   #22
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Originally Posted by lhowemt View Post
Stupid statement of the day, WTF?
Someone is awfully pumped up about her class five swim! Sounds very sophomorically jaded. Hope you grow out of this phase Laura. Its tiring. Maybe you could give us all a break and mature a bit.

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Old 08-18-2011   #23
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Either way the MFS at low water is a hoot, and should not really bother a solid class 4/5 boater....

I've done the NFP, and yes it is a scary ride and there are some truly impressive holes., one that I find less and less alluring as I get older. With my old elbows and wrists I think the NFP in my cat is easier on my body that a low water MFS trip in my loaded down raft. Of course the MFS is a lot easier mentally.

Good work on the EFSF, I did the SFS a couple years ago at 4.5 and it was really one of the best trips I have ever done, had everything that a boater could want in a river.

Interesting the interwebs bring out the egos and ugliness of people sometimes (myself included) I remember when I started boating that there were few boaters, and we all were family. Today it seems like everyone has some chip on their shoulder. I remember when I got my fist raft that I wasn't worried about what cooler, oars, etc to outfit it with, I was more concerned about whether that new fangled SB floor would actually work....

You guys enjoy the armchair boating, this old man would rather sit around a riverside fire and talk about boating with people I know and trust....
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Old 08-18-2011   #24
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Headtrip I wouldn't take this all too seriously, remember most of this is just people distracting themselves from work. Throw in the inevitable misunderstanding (it really is impossible to infer meaning and easy to misread it) in e-chat, and things go downhill fast. Look what joy a simple statement brings me, that they should never leave behind a real chair and I shared my recent experience when I realized how important that one comfort is (if it's possible to bring it on CV, then I see no reason NOT to bring on on low water MF). Some can't help themselves, the worst comes out. It happens to most people, or at least it can seem that way to others even when not intentioned. Then when we meet in person we do just what you say, sit around the fire and BS. And then others just like to bring some people down when they are having fun and can't handle a spade being called a spade or people talking shit. Heck, some of my best boating friends row Aire's and look at what a hard time I give Wave Destroyers as second to Legends. Take what you like here, and ignore the rest. Or if you're in the mood flame back!

And funrivers, the Buzz is inherently sophomoric. Jaded? No way, that flip was a great lesson that helped me progress in my Class V endeavors. Each one is a learning experience, and a successful self recovery is an awesome thing.
I am a river, babe - I've got plenty of time, I don't know where I'm going, I'm just following the lines..... - "We are water" by Shaye
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Old 08-18-2011   #25
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I launched at 1.6 behind 2 well loaded rafts that looked to be 15' and 14'. They had a 30 minute head start and I caught them 100 yds from the launch hopelessly pinned in 1st turn. We extracted them and they pushed on. They were having a tough time for sure. they didn't move well and did not appear to read water very well. it was going to be a long trip. I passed when they both pinned again several times. The usual routine was to stop above a rapid and watch them grunt through it then go myself after the carnage. then i would fish for a while until they did it all again.

If you can read low watr and know how to spin/shimmy/scoot you will be fine. If you are overloaded and clueless it will be slightly less fun.

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