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Old 07-29-2009   #21
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I remember reading in another thread someplace Derk was in the process of cleaning out a section of the Snake so that he could get a first D on it and I would imagine making it accessible for others to use. Would that be something that is low in cost and potentially high in return for something he would've like to see done as well? I am not familar with the stretch, flows, etc ... but a crew of people on a weekend sounds like it might get it runnable for people. Just a thought.

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Old 07-29-2009   #22
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I would be in for cleaning the snake and have a chainsaw. Let me know if anyone wants to work on that this summer/fall.

With regards to the dam removal would AW be able to lend any info? Seems like this is right up their alley.


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Old 07-29-2009   #23
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I just popped a note over to CSM regarding an organized bake sale (and Mary, I hear what you're saying about buying mixes, etc, but if you have a number of folks donate items, or are in a place to eat the cost/ have supplies on hand/ not rely on ready-made mixes, etc, much of the initial cost can be deferred) and/ or additional fundraising resources via the school.

More info to come soon, largely dependent on when we receive a response, and what the nature of those replies entail from CSM.

If you guys can help with any of this, please let me know!
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Old 07-29-2009   #24
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3. If you can charge admittance to something free, do. For instance, if a keg was donated to a benefit, charge for cups. My brothers fraternity can't charge for alcohol and is required to serve sodas. Therefore to pay for their beer they charge for cups instead of "selling alcohol". This is an idea if a concert or some such thing were done, charge to attend or to get food/drink that would preferably be donated.
In the state of Colorado non-profits are allowed 10 special event liquor permits a year to sell booze. Each municipality in Colorado has it's own guidelines for issuing these permits, but if we formed a non-profit to raise money - liquor sales could produce a lot of cash.
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Old 07-29-2009   #25
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FYI regarding the diversion dam. I think it may be the Welch Ditch. The ownership may be complex. I can't recall whether on not I've ever seen this ditch running. If approached properly, the owners may be open to "restoring" or "maintaining" their headgate so that they can continue to make their legal diversions, while allowing safer passage for kayaks. If approached carefully, it could be win-win. If not, the ditch owner could shut down the proejct pretty fast. If this gets some momentum, I'd be glad to help with approaching the owners.
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Old 07-29-2009   #26
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It would be a win for the land owners because if there was a boaters channel there wouldn't be anymore boaters portaging it...
I would think... I don't know the dam or anything but that would be a major + for the owners.
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Old 07-29-2009   #27
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I don't recall there being that much to clean up left on the Snake. There is large drop that I would think would be unrunable regardless but has little jam at it's top. I might be wrong. As I recall the main issue was catching flows. There isn't much of anything flowing into it and the chances of you happening to drop by when flows are right are about slim to none. I would love to see it run but don't know if it's reasonable, but hey, I saw it once before I even knew how to kayak or what to look for. Great fun hike down though, I'ld be up to help clean up what is left to do, well, watch and try to learn.

As far as a bake sale or such thing I'm totally up for it if we're willing to eat the costs, I was just passing on advice. It's good to hear about the alcohol permits, I think a concert or cook out could be a great idea, both for fundraising and for a good time.
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Old 07-29-2009   #28
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Does anyone know if they are still planning on doing the memorial head-light float down the playpark this Sat night?
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Old 07-29-2009   #29
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Not sure about the details but I know Derk's family and I are definitely still going to be there Sat. night. I know a float will happen, the question is merely planning details. But that's Christine's thing, I haven't seen her much lately so don't have all the details on what exactly is happening.
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Old 07-29-2009   #30
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Do you think you could make the modified diversion dam design an EPICS project for the Mines students. Do they even have EPICS anymore, or something similar?
Could be a very inexpensive way to start the project and benefit the Mines community. I would have much rather worked on a project like this than some of the stupid EPICS projects in my day at Mines.

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