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Old 05-29-2013   #21
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WWGP didn't have playboating in the last round.. Charlie sheen was seen in bv it seems

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Good stuff, "KSC". A couple thoughts... There's room for all kinds of comps. In this case we have a local festival (Paddlefest was fantastic this year!) and the pros show up and compete on one of "our" features. They practice with us. We get a chance to sit in the eddy with them. They show us what is possible on a feature that we play on. They give us tips on technique etc. Its truly one of the almost unique aspects of our sport that kids just learning a forward stroke in a Fun 1 can meet and learn from a World Champion at their local playpark.

The WWGP is a great concept but a totally different animal. Very difficult to stage for multiple reasons. Very few rivers have features that allow the huge aerial moves and even fewer of those features have any kind of "reasonable" access or are in reliably. Glad the effort is being made and I hope it continues.

Seems to me, one could argue that the local event is just as exciting for the average boater or the general public as a 100' drop or a hellacious Panam on a huge feature in the backwoods of Quebec.

"Rocketbox", I don't disagree that it would take more skill to link moves on a flushy wave but in this case the linked moves wouldn't have happened because of how flushy the wave was. The decision was made to hold the comp where it was rather than Lodo because comps where 1900 point rides are possible are more fun to watch than one trick and a flush comps. But no, "anyone" can't link moves like Dane did there. Check out his lunar orbit-cartwheel-split wheel-tricky woo combo. That's not your local boater linking cartwheels.

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Phil, you make a number of good points, but the fact that "one could argue" small hole moves are as interesting doesn't mean that person wouldn't lose the argument.
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"Craven", what a craven handle you have. I wasn't "arguing" small hole moves versus big wave moves etc, I was pointing out the value of a local event which goes beyond the amplitude of a trick...
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I am a long time kayaker but don't do much of what is current "play boat moves".

While I do not do the moves, I can for sure appreciate the skill sets used by real play boaters.

Bottom line in company of many world class playboaters, it looked to me that young Dane worked that hole to the maximum possible. The fact that judges gave him a big score does not mean as much to me as the fact he took a "local" hole and worked that hole for all it had to give to the point he beat out other "pro boaters" and locals who were on site and competing.
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After thought. I was there at a instructor's clinic at NOC when EJ used Dane (Dane was really young at that time) to demonstrate EJ's "new way of teaching the roll". I was impressed by Dane at that time and as Dane has grown into a very experienced young man, am more impressed with Dane's performance as the years race by.
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Dane had a great ride, and has proven that he can rise above the rest in whatever feature he faces.

Perfect example of "don't hate the player, hate the game".

If you want to see what he can do on a hole with more pop- come up and see him this weekend in Lyons. Airing out will happen and so will He and the clan ripping down SSV. And if sitting on your butt isn't enough, he'll also be killing it in his canoe and C-1 all while hanging out with friends and giving helpful tips to anyone who wants to do the samething or wants to take his crown.

Now tell me Tiger Woods would do that.
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A big "Amen" to Preacher Don!!
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Old 05-29-2013   #29
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I must be old, too. I thought he was still a preteen!

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Perfect example of "don't hate the player, hate the game".

That guy didn't make the rules, but he certainly knows how to play the game!!! What a fluid boater. Amazing.
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Old 05-29-2013   #30
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This video is case in point. There's no doubt that the skills involved require a lifetime of practice and unique talent, yet the casual onlooker, watching a recording breaking ride, would likely just pause for a few moments and then continue on their way. Even passionate boaters who aren't into dialing in technical hole tricks will find it hard to get very excited about watching this. Photos of Dane getting like 15+ feet of air off a monster wave in Canada however, is a hell of a thing to watch. This sounds like a cool accomplishment, I find it amazing what Dane's accomplishing as a paddler, but if someone hadn't told me, I wouldn't have been able to tell you that there's something particularly amazing about this ride in comparison to others on the pro boating circuit.
I totally agree! You said it better than I could.

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