Thanks Don and Hobie..
Just trying to figure out my next move with a creekboat. Just got back from paddling in New Zealand...took my Embudo down there and sold it. The boat paddled great, but I think I'm a little small for it (5'8 and 155 pounds). So now I'm looking to get into something a little smaller for a primary creeker. I'm looking for something that will boof really well and be manueverable similar to a playboat (I have a Kingpin 6.2 and love it), but I don't want to sacrafice safety and hole punching abiltity. That is what I liked most about the Embudo. So I guess my choices would be Nomad 8.1, Mamba 7.5, or Diesel 65. I definetly have mixed feelings about the hybrid boats. I'm not a big class 5+ paddler, but I'd like to have a boat that I'd feel confident taking down Bailey, Big South, OBJ, Clear Creek, Vallecito, Cali Waterfall stuff, Gore, etc. The Diesel and Nomad seem to be similar volume wise, but the Mamba 7.5 looks a little small at only 52 gallons. Plus to whole rotomolded seat safety thing makes me think that maybe I should just go for the full on creekboat like the Nomad. My buddies that I paddled with in NZ all had Nomads and liked them. The only comment they had was it wasn't super manueverable and kind of felt a little bath tubbish. So I guess I'm at a little dillema here. Any suggestions..... do you guys know anything about the new Jackson Creeker. Thanks .