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Old 03-15-2014   #11
placerville, Colorado
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i love the shiva as well, and the only downsides for me are it's weight (thick, burly plastic though), and not being able to comfortably carry it, as I could not find a position that the hip pad rested on my shoulder comfortably, which has become an issue since surgery. the liquid logic's feel lighter and more comfy when carrying, a minor issue i know.

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