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Old 04-24-2006   #31
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Strong work roy. Along this discussion, I wanted to ask if anyone else out there noticed that their Gerber river knife doesn't hold an edge well? The bearclaw is looking good.... I wish Spyderco would make a good river knife with a lifejacket attachable sheath.

Brush up on those rescue and cpr skills, everyone stay safe this season. Take a class if you haven't already.

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Old 04-24-2006   #32
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Originally Posted by PiToN
BTW... Is Trash Can the double boof ledge hole thing with rocks on the left near the end of the run? If so, it's waiting for the unwary boofer.
It is the first drop in the section that has a rock wall on the right, after Supermax. It has a long class IIIish approach and is not visible from above until you are pretty much entering it (it's still read-and-run though). The current divides around the rock Roy describes. The main current pushes right around the rock, so you have to avoid the wall it pushes into if you go right. At any decent flow, you can drive left through some mank and go left around the rock and into a little 2' boof back into the main current. I prefer the left line, but you have to be careful of the mank and the move is easier if you start the cut left a bit later than you would really like to. Conversely, if you don't drive right hard enough at the right time, you will broach on the rock. (Been there, but popped off in about 2-3 seconds.)

The drop you are describing is referred to as Mystery Eddy on the AW page because you can boof into the left eddy and disappear from upstream view. In 2001 at 175 cfs there was a log across the flow, but underwater, between the first and second drops here. Safe to run, but if the log is still under the froth, it would be a bad place to swim. Fortunately the move anove isn't very hard and it is easy to roll if you were lazy and got backendered/surfed. I prefer to call it Little Bitch, because that's the attitude it usally seems to have.

Roy - glad you are OK. That is a scary story. Great job using your head and being prepared for it.

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Old 04-25-2006   #33
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Piton-- just to clarify:

I do recall a story of a person on the Ocoee who hit their head in Double Trouble and was knocked unconscious. The person attempting to rescue them used a knife to cut the skirt and also cut the femoral artery in the boaters leg. Boater bleed to death on the scene.
The person who died on the Ocoee a few years back was killed in a *relatively no consequences* section of river called the Doldrums, not on Double Trouble. The Doldrums are the one spot where the Middle Ocoee lets up, between the tail-end of "Hell's Half-Mile" (Double Suck, DT, and Flipper) and the top of Table Saw, and is about the *least* likely spot you'd expect to see a swim, much less a fatality:

Again, though, I think this story just goes to prove the theory everyone's been throwing around RE: rapids or places we might not otherwsie give much thought! I'm definitely hooking my knife back to my PFD after reading this tale!
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Old 04-25-2006   #34
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I'm definitely hooking my knife back to my PFD after reading this tale!
Hmm one thing, I wouldn't feel comfortable with having a knife attached to my PFD with a cord (image of swimming with a sharp knife bouncing around my neck). I think having a short cord where you can quickly slip your hand into a loop (and just as quickly ditch the thing if needed) -- or make sure that the cord can "break away"

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