That description makes it sound sorta like Chief, which also isn't a true sieve, but everyone calls it that because it's easier than saying "that rock that you could pin on", and the severity of the pin is so awful. I'm looking forward to seeing it.
Sorry for not taking the backhoe bait, but it's too early in the morning to think up a reply that's sufficiently amusing. Just make sure there's a good boof, we have too few in Colorado.
Now dynamite...let's talk about the log jam at Avalanche on OBJ!
Let's just shove a cow carcass in it so it looks natural. That should get us through another season. Seriously, was that boof really good? The one time I ran it was last year and I was having trouble envisioning a great boof there. I mean, in comparison the superb boofs on the rest of the run. Just curious.
The boof was great....It is not at all like chief..LOL at the guy saying to blow up this and blah blah blah...Talk about over dramitic huh?Just leave the thing alone and I'll walk it the 4 times a year i do it...Too much insanity...Gary
What you are saying about Chief is accurate, but I don't want folks to think I was trying to compare the two features. I was primarily pointing it out as a known hazard, on an ultra classic class V creek, that has "bitten" in the past.......and the absence of plans by Green boaters to alter the creek following the accident.
In retrospect, another fundamental flaw in my comparison is that you can still easily run Chief. The hazard in the drop does not render it unrunnable whereas it sounds like the sieve on Escalante forces a walk.......I personally think the left line at Chief is more dynamic anyway and prefer to run it unless it is @ 200 %, in which case the right line is pretty sweet also......
I guess alls I was sayin is I humbly vote for leaving classic "wild" creek beds alone.....
Christian my post was directed towards caspians post...LOL,just think his comparisons are kinda funny...Way over dramatic in my opinion...
I will be the first guy too remove wood from a creek if it causes a portage on a runnable rapid or in a dangerous place..Sure it's all realitive to the paddler,i'm sure my dangerous places would be considered not dangerous too other paddlers and vise versa,whatever..The post was asking a question and a good one at that...So why blow it out of proportion?He has been given great advice from all involved with this post and I think it is cool that we all give a shit too answer...He was not posting lets make class 5 safe,he was asking if it is worth it to plug a sieve in a rapid that has been runnable for years and is now a portage...Pretty legit question in my opinion...I'm going to move some rocks and cut some wood so i'll be back later...Peace
Gary
Good post Gary, i appreciate that. And ya, I received the info that I was looking for, I'm not planning on going in and changing it.
-dynamite- lol, way outa my league there, that would just be stupid, and destroy a good thing.
Gary I haven't run Escalante yet, can't really compare them. Maybe my description of Chief was more dramatic than most, but a good friend of mine was in the party that had the death there, and the descripton wasn't inaccurate. Although I didn't mention that the move, either left or right side, is not hard.
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