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Old 05-27-2008   #1
chappie

Profile:  Carbondale, Colorado
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Carbondale Boat Ramp CLOSED!!!

Boat ramp and parking at 133 Bridge temporarily closed while the lease is renogotiated. Land Owners are prosecuting trespassers. Use an alternate such as Blue Creek, West Bank, or BRB until the lease is re-signed (2 weeks according to the DOW). Happy boating.
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Old 05-27-2008   #2
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But people are using it including the commercial runners. The signs are posted only on the road and there are none facing the river, the porto potty is still there and there is nothing on the DOW web site about it
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Old 05-27-2008   #3
chappie

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There are signs all over the parking area, posted on all DOW signs. Use at your own risk. I spoke to DOW this morning and they are in negotiations with the property owners to get the lease renewed, but it is currently closed to the public (including private outfitters). Let's make a good showing and be patient and respectful during the closure so that we don't risk losing the ramp all together.

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But people are using it including the commercial runners. The signs are posted only on the road and there are none facing the river, the porto potty is still there and there is nothing on the DOW web site about it
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Old 05-27-2008   #4
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you still need a habitat stamp for launch at west bank!!

we drove for 2 hours,only to find the ramp closed,with a few assholes still launching/parking there---right past the big warning signs.you have no right to bitch,if your car gets towed,or you get hassled by the owners/sheriff.respect this private property snag,until the DOW renegotiates this problem---they dropped the ball(unless it turns out the koziels(owners) are the bad guys.....).by pissing off the property owners,now,all you'll do is make a bad situation worse,and may close it off entirely,and i know many locals/assholes ignore the "requires a habitat stamp for entry","no dogs",etc. signs at both satank rd/west bank put-ins,but all youre doing is giving the DOW a reason to fuck with you/your trip,and state they dont have any funds to address these leases......learn to read the signs, adjust/share facilities,while this gets hopefully resolved quickly....
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Old 05-27-2008   #5
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There are 2 signs that are big yes but the person who ran our shuttle did'nt see them and we noticed it on the way out, we all also had our habitat stamps9 2 on my fishing license). But now we know where to go to put in / take out on that section of river. So yes be respectful and hopefully we will get the put in backn if not there are other options that still take you through that stretch
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Old 05-27-2008   #6
Beardance42

Profile:  Boulder, Colorado
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We were out there on Sunday - I did see a few "No Public Access" placards but was genuinely confused about what they referred to. The permamnent "Public Access" sign at the fork was still there.....We did pick up our Habitat permits at the fly shop in Carbondale.

The ramp was a zoo around 1:30 - 2:30PM with private boaters - I did talk to one local guy who was floating with his wife, he also saw the signs and didn't know what they meant.

Thanks for the update - is there a DOW access number for updates on this situation?
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Old 05-27-2008   #7
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contact the DOW in Glenwood 970.947.2920
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Old 05-28-2008   #8
Beardance42

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Update - called the DOW in Glenwood. Very nice girl brought me up to speed. All the paperwork should be done and the access site should be publicly accessible again after 6/12.

If you do call in for updates, please be nice to the people who take your call at DOW. They're only trying to help us maintain our access to someone else's private land.

Thanks.
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Old 05-28-2008   #9
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DOW dropped the ball??? WTF. So where exactly do the habitat stamp fee's go. Aside from the fact that I refuse to pay for them solely for put in access. Great if I bought a fishing or hunting license, (I agree everybody should have a SAR attachment, but it's included in OHV and Snowmobile registration and hunting and fishing licenses and can be purchased individually) but come on, next we will have to register all river crafts... imagine having to register your raft, kayak, surfboard, inner tube.

Other options listed are fine, unless you want to take your kids or newby kayak buddy on a super mellow float.

Also try stair case park (on river near miners park behind city market) or RVR bridges (park nicely) or from behind the comfort inn (ALL OPTIONS LISTED HERE ARE FOR ACCESS ONLY>>> READ NOT TRAILER DROP)

As for dog's. They are still allowed in your boat. Just not on land at put in or take out. read>>> must carry dogs to boat or have in boat as you load onto trailer.
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Old 05-29-2008   #10
chappie

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Habitat Stamps-buy one

It is ridiculous to think that only hunters and fisherman should pay for the accesses and wildlife areas provided by our state, it is high time all of us sack up and start paying for the areas(especially through private land) that we have. Until we move in the direction of socialism and higher taxes to pay for this stuff, why don't we all just go dig around in our couch cushions for the 10 bucks required to have access year-round to all fo the state's wildlife areas and put-ins. C'mon.
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