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Old 04-05-2010   #11
Cave Junction, Oregon
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Originally Posted by Wadeinthewater View Post
I am not sure why AW doesn't reccomend the Rogue >6,000 cfs (Agness gauge). From the perspective of a rafter and IKer, I believe the river is easier at higher flows. The drops are not as steep, a lot of the rocks are covered and lines are not as precise. The river is still largely pool drop. Mule Creek is wider, seems less turbulent and Telfer's Rock (sp?) is covered. A route opens up on the right side of Blossom and the Fence is covered. But like Northfwestg said, at any level you had better be one bad ass in a canoe, have the right equipment and have someone else carry the camping gear.

The Rogue will put a lot more water in your boat with bigger waves...
I found the river easier at the higher levels...blossom bar isn't the single path rock garden, but is fast, as are all the rapids, if swamped you may not be able/have time to pull out/eddy etc...6000 on the Grants Pass guage, makes Rainie Falls runnable(IMO,still need to scout)...mule crk. canyon is always a coffee grinder, never had a prob. in a raft but have seen plenty of Ik's dump in mule and it can be a long swim, with a small party. Having a support raft, definitely a plus...with a guide(me) +/-?

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Old 04-05-2010   #12
Keizer, Oregon
Paddling Since: 1996
Join Date: Jun 2009
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I agree with other posters. Flows at the end of May are highly variable! I pulled some quick historical data from USGS (Agness Gauge).

May 25, 2008 - 8,860
May 31, 2008 - 7,650
May 25, 2007 - 3,020
May 31, 2007 - 3,750
May 25, 2006 - 6,310
May 31, 2006 - 4,650
*2009 doesn't seem to be available yet.

While I thought this year was going to be a low water year for Oregon, things may be changing. It has been very wet heading into spring and the last couple of weeks brought substantial precipitation. I think, at this point, it's hard to guess what water flows will do.

In terms of canoeing, I have heard that people occasionally canoe this stretch, but I'm not sure I've ever seen one. I certinaly wouldn't recommend it for anyone without solid whitewater canoe skills.

As with any river, there are challenges to both high and low water. I agree many places on the Rogue are easier at high water (drops smaller, Telfer's rock under water, other options at Blossom, etc.). That having been said, I would think that the Rogue would be more canoe friendly at lower flows when it's not as pushy and fast feeling. Keep in mind that this is coming from someone that does not canoe. I think each boater has their own perspective on when the Rogue begins to feel pushy and fast and I think it is largely dependent on the craft and the boater's experience. To me, it seems like 6,000 cfs would be a little pushy for a canoe. Just my thoughts...

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