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Old 07-15-2005   #1
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Burlington, Vermont

Have an opportunity to move to Burlington,VT for a new job. How is the town, people, mnts, skiing, etc.? Good place to raise a family? Is it isolated?

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Old 07-15-2005   #2
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CO Native Rates VT

I moved out to VT last year (and miss CO like MAD!)
BUT that being said, VT is quickly growing on me. The paddling is absolutely wonderful! The skiing, well, how well do you ski ice. (Out here, they call it hardpack. If it is not blue, and you can't read a trail map under 3 ft of it, it is NOT ice.) Winters are tough - a lot harder than CO!
Burlington is a beautiful town. It is like a small Boulder, without the pretentiousness (or FlatIrons). Burlington is not really isolated - it is 3 hours or so from Boston and 2 hours from Montreal (you will need a passport by '07). Burlington nightlife is pretty cool too.
Check out - you can kind of get a sense of what is happening around here on the rivers. And DEFINITELY visit before you move! I recommend flying into Boston and driving up - gives you a sense of drivetimes and where things are. If you have more specific questions, email me at

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Not sure where you are now, but if you have to be back east Burlington is great place to be. Went to college in VT. However, it doesn't compare to Colorado or the West. It's in a different league - IMO - in almost every aspect except for maybe . . . biking. Mountains obviously cannot compare to CO. Thus all mountain related activities are subpar compared to the West (except biking and trail running) which between that and the weather is probably while I'll never choose to live there. Skiing=ice 80% of the time. Weather = clouds, humidity, cold as hell in the winter, and many months w/o sun. People are great, Vermonters are very proud of their state. It's probably a great place to raise a family. Depending on your situation and priorities it's tough to beat . . . for an east coast town.

Beware of VT property taxes though they can make a good income disappear very quickly. They are EXTREMELY HIGH!!! Vermonters are not afraid of the word socialism and you'll pay for it
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Hey - taxes aren't so bad when you are ACTUALLY GETTING a return on them (medical... best rest areas in the entire 50 states [hey, we are talking COMPLEMENTARY coffee here])!

A few neat things about property out here - if you rent, you get a renter's rebate kind of thing (worth up to about $1000 - try getting THAT in Boulder!) and if a trespasser hurts themselves on YOUR land, they can't sue you (unless, of course, you are setting booby traps ...). If you can survive the winter, you are up for a treat!
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Old 07-17-2005   #5
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I went to Groovy Uvey and here's my breakdown-
pros- Vermonters are some of the best people you'll ever meet
the food! careful, it ain't very healthy but soooooo good!
great outdoor activities, just on a smaller scale than CO
great public schools
Autumn leaves, 10 years later I still miss them

cons- Weather- cold as hell in winter, humid in Summer
don't have the wide open spaces of the west
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If you have to live east of the Rockies there are two places to do it: Ashville NC or Burlington VT. The winters are bitter...two years ago in Hanover NH (my wife went to gradschool there, similar weather) the temp never broke zero for a whole month. You can find a good days skiing...just have to wait. I've had days at Sugarbush/Mad River that rival most days in CO...just rarer.

I can tell you that Lake Champlain is sweet and in the month of October, Vermont is the most beautiful place in the world...maybe the universe. That being said, I'm not moving back east any time soon. I do go back for autumn, though.

I hope in the future Americans are thought of as a warlike, vicious people, because I bet a lot of high schools would pick "Americans" as their mascot. -Jack Handy
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