Originally Posted by Ture
Why not use rocket box ammo cans as groovers? Everybody I know uses them and they work great.
Because I hate rocket boxes. Gamma lid & bucket is the only groover system I've used for 8 years with no poo disasters. No leaking, breaking, warping, or poo explosions. Maybe we've just been lucky, but it works great for us. Gamma lids should never be over tightened. It stretches the o-ring. If you crank down on them to the point that they're hard to open then it's too tight. Hand tight is all that you need for the o-ring to work.
If the Gamma is leaking significantly from the start, then it's probably not seated right on the bucket. I have run across a few buckets that have a rim design that doesn't accept the gamma lid very well.