I think we need certifications and more regulation of running rivers. That way you can rely on people when you need. Grif never signed in. He was the leader and was responsible for evverybody on the river. Grif failed us all when he floated by drinking his Shlitz and talking to hi sk### of a GF.
Did you pay Grif, as a certified guide, to take you safely down the river? If not, I fail to see how it was his responsibility to make sure that you had a safe and fun time on the river.
I believe it was your responsibility, as a nubie boater, to inform him that you are seriously lacking in boating and self-rescue abilities, and that you would need him to nurse you through your run.
Sounds like you had your bitch-whistle already in-mouth by the time your party arrived "2 hours late".
You should probably pack up and go back to Wisconsin, where the water is much calmer and the people are used to needing babysitting. Colorado, and especially Gunnison and CB, are far too hardcore for the likes of your whiney-ass!
Top 50 Ways to get 86'ed out of Gunnison County
Be a whiney bitch who can't handle her shit; then try to have someone arrested for failing to nurse your ego; topped off by dragging a long-time local's name through the virtual mud.
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When someone is having trouble breathing and tells you he cant breathe, well since he just told you he is obviously breathing... His condition would be categorized as respiratory distress. Yappergirls experience seems to fall into this type of designation; Distress. So what we know here is that she did have a 'bad swim' in class II/III, and she was significantly distressed by and during the experience. And as most of the first responses express, sorry this was distressing, but been there done that.
Panic: The belief that danger is imminant and inescapable. People will respond to this type of situation by either acting purposfully (swimming to shore, asking for help) or non purposfully (thrashing about and / or screaming incohearantly, just sitting there doing nothing, etc.). Why would someone react with non-purposful actions? Because they don't know the way out, what to do, what would be purposeful. So what do you do about this? Get some training and experience before putting yourself in this position in the first place, or to be constructive, in your next place (and that day will come).
What Yappergirl is telling everyone here is that she is not someone to go boating with; That she has no concept of her skills and limitations, that she has no concept of the skills and limitations of her boating partners, that she panics in class II/III situations, and that she is fulling willing to prosecute her boating partners. So I gotta ask myself, is this someone I want to go boating with? If I get in trouble does she have any sense of how to help me out if she cant figure out how to help herself out? Should she attepmt to help me out will she just exacerbate the situation by getting herself into trouble as well?
This is not particularly to give her shit (well the yappergirl part is...), but to give a little perspective. My advise here is to either take a rescue class before you go boating again, particularly during the high water season, or get out of a sport that clearly dosent seem to be your cup of tea.
One more thing I would like to add here is that this post has really become disrespectful of those that have and will find themselves in life and death situation on the river, and those that have and will die on the river. This is a reality of this sport. It is really fun, with increadible potential for disateous consequences. This is a fact we must accept conciously and willingly to participate in this sport. One fact to bear in mind going into this season is that we are going into a high water year, and historically this shoots the boating fatality statistic up pretty good. There will be significant river accidents this year and they will start pretty soon. Before we all start getting too carried away with all this making fun of a situation and belittling the comming reality,
there will most likely actually be fatalities on the river in colorado this summer.
It is not cool to make light of this.
Any wilderness activity does bear the responsability of learning your own skills, limitations and risks, and those of your party. If you haven't taken a rescue class, you damned well should. Why would I want to boat with you if you haven't? Are you relying on me to rescue you soley? Can I rely on you?
All said and done, boat safe y'all. Have fun. Peace
I tried to put a link to this thread on the gunnylines.com arts and entertainment page but the only way to post is to email the administrator. I dont think she will oblige.
i'm not going to put her name here, but if anyone is curious as to who she really is and her real name, it's plastered all over her website.... gunnylines.com
she even has a 50 ways to get kicked out of a bar on her website...one of them is calling the police when it's unwarranted....
After ordering at Wendy's drive thru the other day and starting around the bend MY boat fell off the roof of my car and landed in the drive thru lane.
So I did the only thing I could think of... I grabbed the whistle from my glovebox and dove out the passenger door onto my boat. I had my feet up and out in front of me, I was holding onto my boat and blowing my whistle.
My wife obviously assumed I was fine and continued down the drive thru to get the food. I saw her receive the food and pull around to the other side of the building yelling "Bob, quit screwing around". After a few more minutes of my feet up and blowing my whistle the cars behind me began to blow their horns and scream "Idiot- get the fuck out of the way!!"
One woman even got out of her car, WALKED over to me, told me all I needed to do was grab that curb and stand up. MAN she has amazing drive thru skills. I laid there with my feet up pointed towards the second window,when finally, some qualified help showed up.
Denver PD showed up to help me out of my situation, they tossed my boat down into the drainage ditch on the side of the Wendys, put me in the back of their car, nice folks, so I could begin to calm down an collect my thoughts.
I was just getting ready to put back on when I learned that I was the public disturbance so I ended up continuing to downtown where I learned that next time all I had to do was get to the side, collect my thoughts and continue on.
Capt. Picard: I understand what you've done here, Q. But I think the lesson could have been learned without the loss of 18 members of my crew. Q: If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous - with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid.
Also from her list of ways to get kicked out of a bar in Gunnison County:
30.) Dancing on the bar
Glad I live in Eagle County, if not I would always have to drink at home.
I have a lot of long, nasty swims under my belt, both in CO and back east, and I can say that I have NEVER been in the water longer than a few minutes, and I would say that 90% of those swims have been self rescue, and only a few times have I had to let go of my boat, and only once have I lost my paddle. 15-20 minutes in the water this time of the year, no matter how fit you are is not good and I don't think would end up good, I don't think you would be walking away from the river. Write you name on your shit and let it go next time! Or don't head out this time of year.
I will be women enough to admit that things are little big for me right now, and the mental game is taking over. And I have nothing to prove to anyone. Not so much that I don't have the physical ability and skill level to be out there, but I know that the mental game takes over a little bit when the water is cold and fast. 25% physical & 75% mental, one the best kayakers I know once told me. And I honestly don't want to put anyone else in danger by having to worry about rescuing me. Sounds like a little bit of a mental game in this story too.
I know when to stay off the river, see you all on the backside of the peak! And remember, We are all between swims (I've already drank a bootie beer this season)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
P.S. Who brings their keys on the river? That would suck if you lost them!
Someone needs to collect these all into SOMETHING that is archived on the Buzz. There are just too many hilarious takes on this "tragic" story! Is there a "best of" section? There should be!
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Originally Posted by bobbuilds
This is no laughing matter!
After ordering at Wendy's drive thru the other day and starting around the bend MY boat fell off the roof of my car and landed in the drive thru lane.
So I did the only thing I could think of... I grabbed the whistle from my glovebox and dove out the passenger door onto my boat. I had my feet up and out in front of me, I was holding onto my boat and blowing my whistle.
My wife obviously assumed I was fine and continued down the drive thru to get the food. I saw her receive the food and pull around to the other side of the building yelling "Bob, quit screwing around". After a few more minutes of my feet up and blowing my whistle the cars behind me began to blow their horns and scream "Idiot- get the fuck out of the way!!"
One woman even got out of her car, WALKED over to me, told me all I needed to do was grab that curb and stand up. MAN she has amazing drive thru skills. I laid there with my feet up pointed towards the second window,when finally, some qualified help showed up.
Denver PD showed up to help me out of my situation, they tossed my boat down into the drainage ditch on the side of the Wendys, put me in the back of their car, nice folks, so I could begin to calm down an collect my thoughts.
I was just getting ready to put back on when I learned that I was the public disturbance so I ended up continuing to downtown where I learned that next time all I had to do was get to the side, collect my thoughts and continue on.
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