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Old 05-14-2007   #11
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I just emailed the ranger and I will continue to do so everyday. I am considering trying to get everyone together and hiring a lawyer. I think there is a real case for Harrassment and Entrapment. I am also considering the advice of brendodendo and demanding a jury trial.

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Old 05-14-2007   #12
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These Ranger dickbags can......

I'm high,bitches!! I'm high!!

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Old 05-14-2007   #13
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thought this might help...

a little example of what I sent, hoping it might inspire you...

Ranger Rick,
Please enforce the laws that are important to the proper managment of our public lands. Use of proper human waste disposal systems that prevent freshwater contamination as well as fire pans that help prevent the spread of wild fires are crucial overnight river trip equipment. Using tax dollars to check for these pieces of equipment and to clean and maintain the campgrounds is much more important than snooping around for possible use of marijuana.
As an avid enthusiast of river recreation I would much rather know that my neighbor isn't spreading fecal matter or starting a fire, rather than whether or not he may or may not be smoking a joint.
Please put the LM back into BLM and re-focus on what matters most in our public lands.
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Old 05-15-2007   #14
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Here's the response I got back from Ranger Rick:

Dear Matt,
> I suppose your letter is in response to BLM law
> enforcement at the Dolores
> River campground and boat launch sites this past
> weekend. If it is, you
> are the second person I have heard from concerning
> the matter.
> Let me make this perfectly clear. I was not even
> working on that weekend
> and heard about the law enforcement encounters after
> the fact the following
> Monday.
> BLM did not receive any word of any releases until
> Thursday afternoon. The
> Friday before releases started I spent 11.5 hours
> opening the campground,
> hooking up the water, cleaning the toilets at both
> Bradfield, the Dove
> Creek pump station and the toilets at Box Elder
> Recreation Site. That is
> how your tax dollars were spent.
> The majority of my job with the river program is
> just what you have accused
> me of not doing. If you will check the Dolores
> River web site you will
> notice a complete section on Leave No Trace river
> etiquette. I developed
> most of that information and had it put on a web
> site. That is how your
> tax dollars were spent. If you will take the time
> to read the bulletin
> boards at the launch sites you will find river
> etiquette, regulations,
> interpretation and directions developed by and
> posted by me. I have also
> designed, built and installed all the bulletin
> boards that the information
> is posted on. That is how your tax dollars were
> spent.
> I have instructed several Leave No Trace Western
> Rivers Masters Courses
> with the National Outdoor Leadership School. That
> is how your tax dollars
> were spent. I have given river etiquette
> presentations at several Utah
> Guides workshops, River Management Society meetings,
> numerous college and
> other school presentations. That is how your tax
> dollars were spent. I
> have organized several Dolores River Guides
> workshops for commercial river
> guides. That is how your tax dollars were spent.
> I have spent hundreds of hours, yes hundreds,
> dismantling and cleaning
> campsites on 97 miles of the Dolores River. That
> included breaking down
> illegal fire rings, taking apart hunting camps,
> filling in illegal pit
> toilets, carrying out charcoal from illegal fires,
> disposing of feces and
> toilet paper laying on the ground, putting out camp
> fires, cleaning up
> bonfire parties, etc., etc. Over the years I've
> gotten more cuts from
> picking up broken glass than I care to remember.
> That is how your tax
> dollars were spent. I have organized and
> facilitated many river trips down
> the Dolores for volunteer groups and environmental
> organizations to
> eradicate invasive weeds and conduct restoration
> projects. That is how
> your tax dollars were spent.
> I have rescued and provided aid to many boaters in
> need. I have unwrapped
> boats for river runners and mailed or carried lost
> gear to owners. That is
> how your tax dollars were spent.
> I suspect you are brand new to boating or from a
> foreign country otherwise
> you would know the truth about the Dolores River
> boating community and my
> reputation as the Dolores River Ranger (education,
> interpretation and
> maintenance). I have been doing all of the above as
> a BLM employee for the
> past 15 years. I have been boating the Dolores as
> both a commercial guide
> and private boater since 1981. I know about the
> Dolores River and folks
> who recreate there. Ask any real boater in the four
> corners area and you
> will find out the truth about Ranger Rick. Also ask
> those same boaters,
> private and commercial, if they have ever been
> checked by me for
> porta-potties, fire pans, safety gear, etc.
> Lots of folks and their families from all over the
> United States boat the
> Dolores and take care of it. They are very
> environmentally conscious and
> excellent boaters. And guess what: they are not a
> bunch of pot heads.
> And guess what again: pot is illegal weather we
> like it or not, period.
> How dumb does one have to be to not realize that you
> do not light up in a
> public campground that is patrolled by law
> enforcement. Do you believe
> that everyone using the Bradfield Campground
> approves of drug use? I would
> much rather have a "neighbor" whom I could educate
> about proper disposal of
> human waste than a neighbor who is high on drugs.
> Who do you think is
> watching out for your vehicles and other gear when
> you are on the river?
> How many times have you or your family members been
> hassled or attacked by
> a bunch of drunks or meth addicts running wild in
> the campground? I like
> to feel that I can take my grand kids to the Dolores
> River and feel safe.
> There is a reason for that feeling of safety. Guess
> why.
> Sincerely,
> Ranger Rick
> Rick Ryan
> Outdoor Education/Recreation
> Dolores Field Office, Dolores, CO
> (970) 882-6817
Perhaps he wasn't the best person to contact regarding this incident considering he claims he wasn't present.

Also, it was mentioned in the messages above that trips were not checked for low impact equipment can anyone verify this?

I guess everyone should be glad there's enough snow the river's even running, most years it seems like it all goes to the ranchers. Too bad you can't enjoy one of our natural resources without having to go to court.
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Old 05-15-2007   #15
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Wow. Somebody's being a little defensive. But I do have one question. How are my tax dollars being spent again?
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Old 05-15-2007   #16
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I have not recieved a reply to my emails to ranger rick yet......but I wrote much of the same. I did not write to attack ranger rick I just thought he was the proper person at the BLM to complain too. And yes I know over 20 different people who were on the river that day and not a single person had their raft inspected or even saw a ranger on Sat or Sun.
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Old 05-15-2007   #17
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Make it Cost $$$$$$

One thing to consider is setting every single ticket for trial.

Many marijuana tickets (possession of less than 1 oz.) carry only a penalty of a fine and unless they dismiss te case you will pay a fine and receive a record of conviction anyway. By setting every single case for trial and for a suppression hearing you will tie up the Ranger Prick types for at least half a day for each case. That will either require overtime or take them out of the backcountry and prevent them from harassing other boaters/ hikers/climbers. Additionally, depending on the county the ticket was written in you may tie up a part time ourt and judge ad get the judge really pissed off at the BLM.


You may gain nothing other than the satisfaction that you didn't roll over like a Beeotch and plead guilty.

STUDENTS should be very carefull of setting cases like this for trial or pleading to a marijuana offense because getting convicted of possession of Marijuana can screw up financial aid. A conviction or plea to possession of paraphernalia will not likely carry the same consequence regarding financial aid.
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Old 05-16-2007   #18
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Oh yeah, I forgot to include my reply:

Dear Ranger Rick,

Thanks for the quick response. It seems that you are
accomplishing a lot down there in the four corners
area. I would like to applaud your effort. I would
also like to say that the reason you are receiving
e-mails concerning the citations given at the
campground last weekend is that your contact
information was given.

That is to say, the indictment is not to you
personally, but rather to the agents that were

You are correct in stating that marijuana use is
illegal whether we like it or not. But, as you know
as a law enforcement officer, there are a lot of laws
that are enforced in a lot of different ways, many of
which are not enforced at all. I think it is an
unfair assumption to imply that marijuana smokers
behave in a similiar manner to those using crystal
meth. Regardless, these men and women will have their
day in court.

The message was an effort to let you know that some
citizens would rather see the patrolling of the
campground focused on more severe criminal

Good luck and keep up the good work.


Matt Johnson
I'm one too many dogs in this here fight, so I will bow out... but, there are some inconsistencies here. Boaters claim the camps were grungy and unmanned other than "dick tracy types" - Ranger Rick claims my taxpayer dollars are working overtime for just such things...

Good luck in court - give 'em hell!
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Old 05-16-2007   #19
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BTW - Mountainfish you might not be getting a response because you're directly involved and any correspondence is permissable in court... I on the other hand am just a concerned taxpayer. Any of you lawdogs up for some pro bono work? twmartin? I'm sure these guys will have a space on a overnighter or something to kick down in the near future.
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Old 05-16-2007   #20
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Did I make a mistake writing to compalin to Ranger Rick b/c I am directly involved in the case? And yes any help or advice from boating lawyers would be greatly appreciated. I am pretty sure that all the tickets are for Federal court in Durango and not the County.

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