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Old 05-25-2007   #11
Frisco, Colorado
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Go for it. I was scheduled to go on 2 trips in the last 2 yrs and both were cancelled due to people backing out. It is supposed to be the trip of a liftime dont let it pass!!!!

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Old 05-25-2007   #12
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If you're really concerned you should get another boat, with a seasoned Canyon boatman on the trip. The best place to post an invitation like this would be on the Grand Canyon Private Boater's email list (Log onto GCPBA-dot-org ) where you can find folks with lots of experience who can make your trip a lot better and help with avoiding pitfalls. Remember that you're in the driver's seat when it comes to choosing trip mates and that you can do a lot to screen out folks that you don't think would be compatible.

Like Ian (DeepSouth) says, boaters are (generally) good folks and easy-going enough to get along with. You're the trip leader (TL) and you set the tone of the trip and, within reason, you make the rules. Its your trip, there are lots of experienced folks that would love to come along on a small trip and can provide expertise on the river, camps, planning & logistics.

Have a good trip, whichever way you decide to do it. Even if you don't bring anyone else along, monitor the GCPBA list and you'll get tons of information that will be helpful to you, and you'll be able to ask lots of questions.

Good luck,


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Old 05-25-2007   #13
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i agree with others that if you can only find one person you want to go with maybe you are the one with the problem? that said - i would go solo if i had to.
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Old 05-26-2007   #14
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I just got off a two boat, three person. 24-day-to-South-Cove trip. People are good down there, and will help you if you need it. We offered to help folks who had flipped, and I'm aware of a commercial motor trip that helped a flipped private raft during that time as well.

However, there is a reduced margin of safety with a one-boat, two person trip, and only you can gauge if you're prepared for that. We saw rattlenakes close up and personal, you can slip and fall and break something, and other things beside flips can stir things up. For sure, as Caspian says, keep your rescue gear where you can get it if you flip, know how to rig a Z-drag, and don't do anything too wild and crazy.

On trip numbers, if you can pick up some additional good, experienced folks at, that would be great. But don't be persuaded that you should take more folks than you actually want to just because the permit max is 8 or 16. It's your trip and you have every right to make it what you want, not what other people think it ought to be.


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