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Old 09-13-2008   #41
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Colorado seems somewhat progressive when it comes to water recreation rights especially when you consider the number of whitewater playparks blanketing the state, and the case that some states are just now breaking ground on their first parks. If boaters could unite and push for a freshening up of the high water line law that most of our neighbors have, it would allow for safe scouting and/or portaging/rescue without the risk of trespass or in most cases a harassment, and things would be about perfect. At the very least setting up scout, portage and put in/take out easements would be handy.

Either way, I feel lucky to have found a sport that is alive and full of good people regardless of the state. There are no losers in this poll.

I do feel that Colorado river/property disputes are starting to side more on the boaters, and I firmly believe that is because of the knowledge and class of Colorado boaters. There will always be a few bad apples in any group, but on the whole colorado boaters seem to be a very respectful, eco-sensitive, cooperative, friendly community, and i think various local law enforcements have noticed that and are becoming receptive towards us as a result. Take a look at some of the access issues these days, Sportsmens Paradise, Willow Creek, the Lake Fork, etc, and you'll notice a similar pattern of "the local sherriffs are extremely helpful towards kayakers...." and again, I think thats due to the respect we have earned as a community over the years. The only thing now is to just make sure we continue to uphold those principles, so our favorable image in the eys of the law enforcement doesn't get soured. but i dont think that will be a problem........

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Old 09-13-2008   #42
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I love the long desert rafting trips, so Utah/Colorado is my favorite(with Idaho and Oregon coming in second). I ski, climb, and fly fish for afternoon and day trips so quick access isn't as important to me.

Its great to think that within a few hours drive of SLC you have long trips like the Grand Canyon, Cataract, the San Juan, Desolation Canyon, Gates of Lodore, the Yampa, the Dolores, Bruneau-Jarbridge, and if you get lucky the Dirty Devil, Escalante, and San Rafael River. Add in overnighters like Ruby/Horsethief, the Green below Flaming Gorge, and my favorite - Westwater - and life is pretty good if you have a flexible schedule.

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California - live here. Perhaps the best territory in the world for class V boating. Tons of driving and it can be tricky to get flows right, but its amazing. Don't come for the play boating. People are cool - but they make fun of 1) colorado and 2) playboaters... (b/c they associate 1 with 2)

Washington - lived there. Tons of stuff and easy access to BC. Lots of driving - not as bad as Cali, but lots. If you're excited about the "year round" season, you better be f-ing dedicated - its freaking cold boating there in the winter... brrrrr......

Colorado - grew up / learned to boat here and it has it all. Great place for play and has a good paddling "scene" - so many play parks... Easy access to lots of runs (i.e. less driving) - especially when things are flowing. Creeking is pretty good - until you go to Cali. DOn't get me wrong, there are some good creeks, but its not the same.

West Virginia - amazing play and some pretty nasty V too. Washington DC area is also sick - the Potomac has ridiculous playboating...

Oregon - eh... lots of volcanic rock - it hurts your boat. good play though.

Southeast sounds sick - never been. Idaho just a bit. Montana is sick, but it seemed to me that there were not the numbers of runs as in other areas... THough I hear there is a lot of new stuff being run.

Up shot: if you like all around paddling and a fun boating scene, its tough to beat Colorado or west virginia. If you want super high quality whitewater, wilderness runs, epics, or running BIG stuff that is clean, then there is nothing like Cali.
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if its strictly a vote for just kayaking, WV hands down to me. Beyond the year round season, the variety of different boating you can do goes beyond that of most any state. When it rains you can surf the dries at 50k, and run mill creek for dinner. Its the only place I can really say I was doing Pan-Ams on January First, with the new river at 17k cfs, and it was sunny, and warm

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