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Old 08-17-2010   #31
T ride, Colorado
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Dr. Gloria Beim out of gunnison. Both my shoulders where done 10 years ago orthoscopically with tacks and huge labrium and slap lig tears. 5 bone tacks and the are holding up rock solid. She's a no bull doctor who will tell you exactly what condition your cartiladge is in, and exactly what range of motion you will have when you do your pt.

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Old 08-17-2010   #32
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does anyone have any experience with the prolow(i think this is how it is spelled) procedure? i think they do it at the stedman clinic. they inject some sort of saliene/blood mixture into your shoulder. i have a friend who has had his shoulder operated on 3 or 4 times, and told me that if he had to do it over he would go this route.

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Old 08-17-2010   #33
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I would recommend talking to Abbott. He told me I did not need surgery so he is the best in my opinion.
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Old 08-18-2010   #34
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Shoulder surgery

I've had shoulder surgery twice (once on each shoulder) and had good results both times. The bottom line is if the labram is blown and the ligaments torn, they do not heal for people over the age of around 20. You can do strengthening exercises and make do but when you relax and take even a small hit the wrong way, it will slide out and cause further damage to the joint.

Possibly, depending on the type of boating you do, you should either get it fixed or not. If you run class V or do a lot of playboating, I probably would.

My favorite doc so far was Dr. Hackett at Steadman. He was very good and my shoulder is bomber. I won't lie though, it is a painful, expensive and generally bad experience.

Good luck!

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Old 08-18-2010   #35
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i'm due for arthroscopic labral repair on my left shoulder on Sep 8 .. which i'm NOT looking forward to. the same surgeon who did my right shoulder will be doing it again on my left .. joel shapiro at seattle ortho center. it's too far to travel from CO when you have great surgeons in your own back yard, but he's highly recommended. i appreciate his candor, technical skill, & his track record of working on athletes of all kinds .. plus, his personal interest/investment in his patients is awesome. as an athlete himself, he wants to hear from you long after the procedure & know what you're up to & how his work has held up .. he's a genuinely nice guy. some of y'all don't care about that stuff, but i appreciate it.

it might be worth your time to check out this new technology & discuss with your surgeon, for labrum-glenoid anchors: Biomet Sports Medicine : JuggerKnot? Soft Anchor

the benefits include way smaller drill bit size (1.4 mm vs 3 mm), no hard implants in joint space (these are all suture, not titanium or resorbable plastic), equal pull-out strength, & since they're half the size of contemporary implants, the surgeon should be able to get more implants/sutures into the labrum to ensure a bomber repair.

buena suerte!
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Old 08-18-2010   #36
Keystone, Colorado
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I haven't had shoulder surgery but I have had surgeries with both Dr Viola (badly broken wrist) and Dr Hackett (3 out of 4 knee ligaments torn). Both with Steadman- Hawkins and both great doctors. I am back doing all the outdoor sports I love and I have them to thank for it!
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Old 08-19-2010   #37
Helena, Montana
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^Randy Viola is probably the BEST hand surgeon in the country^ I have seen him do some amazing things. OLNY guy I would let do anything major on my hands/wrists.

Rich Cunningham (yes, thats really his name) rebuilt my hip & gave me my life back.

Shoulders are sketchy & more often than not the repairs don't take. Many are dissapointed with the outcome.
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Old 08-19-2010   #38
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Gloria Beim in gunny has done 3 surgeries (one shoulder) on me and they all went great in all respects.
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Old 08-19-2010   #39
Jenks, Oklahoma
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MCSkid asked about prolotherapy.

I had a rear end car accident that left me with neck and shoulder damage.

Went to a local DO muscleoskeletal specialist who did the prolo treatments for me.

It took a while and several injections but it worked and I avoided an operation.

From talking to the Doctor who did the treatments on me, this procedure works well on the type of ligament damage I had, may not work for everyone.

Bottom line, find a local Doctor who does prolotherapy and get examined to see if it will work for you.
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Old 08-19-2010   #40
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I had my left shoulder done by Steven Paul in Boulder. It is Bomber, and i will probably have him do my right this winter. He is by far the most highly reccomended in the immediate area. You can tell him Mike and Connor (my son) sent you. Good luck.

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