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Old 10-24-2012   #81
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Is it funny to disrespect people in general?


Time to grow up. This isn't even about kayaking anymore. Your past my time, realize you just told me that personal attacks are not going to get you anywhere. So why was I brought up on Facebook why was my unemployment brought up on Facebook? I regards to "gangster" did you watch the movie??? I don't know intelligent gun owners that act like that, not even red necks.

In regards to people like you wanting to see it! I feel sorry for you in many aspects! Your journey in life isn't a bigger waterfall bro its love learn that first. You post the video and don't expect somebody to dislike it and speak up your saying this is america this and that well welcome we can have an opinion and it can be just as loud so FUCK OFF take your prehumanistic characteristic back to Islam. Sad to see some of those boys from wyoming in BDP. Knowing wyoming history

I'm not talking about religion either

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Old 10-24-2012   #82
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I think some ppl just think that you need to disrespect to get respect. Its kinda nutball but it seems to be the new way of thinking for the younger boys. I mean these are people who can't find anything else better to do with their lives. Its really kinda sad. I don't hate BDP, I am sad for them. It must be tough growing up in this new age world. No direction, no hope for anything tangable. Just hucking and disrespecting. These kids are going to have a tough time in personal relationships in the future. Hard time getting and keeping jobs. Someone will die. Its just a matter of time. It really is sad when you think about it and their futures.

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Old 10-24-2012   #83
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wait, wait, wait a minuet....

I'ts called playing box now?

and what the fuck is a jamoke?

i'm getting old.
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Old 10-24-2012   #84
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Jamook= BDP= a person of mental or physical incompetence, due to their own lack of grace and social aptitude.
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Old 10-24-2012   #85
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It's too bad kayakers are wasting their energy talking shit about other kayakers when we should all be rallying together in our common hatred of our natural enemy: the creature craft.
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Old 10-24-2012   #86
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10 points to Shitouta, you got my sides hurting....
Simply in between swims
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Old 10-24-2012   #87
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These boyz are just reflecting what they've seen and experienced growin up in tha Hood. Hood River brah.

I tried to watch the BDP video but only made it through a minute or two. I even skipped ahead to the kayaking parts hoping there would be something cool there, but no luck. My problem with the video is the poor production and dearth of entertaining content. I think the video is supposed to be some inside joke that I’m not privy to or else really poorly executed satire. It should not be confused with Bomb Flow which has done a great job of putting out some quality videos showcasing some of the best runs and big drops around the world and even occasionally injecting some good satirical humor.

Having not really watched much of the video and not really knowing any of these people, I won’t comment directly on their intentions. There’s no doubt at least some of them have some pretty juvenile comments on here, Facebook, and in their video.

In general I’m not a big fan of objectifying and degrading women though sadly, many have proven it can be a highly effective technique for getting laid. Even when done jokingly, esp. when done publicly, it can lead toward a culture of violence against women, which I’m not a big fan of either and which is still a very real problem in our society. This argument has definitely played out a lot in the music culture. Lots of hip hop music degrades/objectifies women. Honestly, I still listen to the likes of Dr. Dre and successors because, well, I like the beat. Some people don’t because of the lyrics and they may be right not to. There’s often a difficulty separating the art from the artist but it’s frequently necessary. In fact, oftentimes someone at the apex of their craft has sacrificed developing other areas of their lives.

This BDP video is no a brainer though because there’s nothing of value there. It’s like if an amateur no-talent N Sync (redundant?) started rapping about bitches. I’m still not clear whether this is just supposed to be some joking around amongst friends and some people picked it up off a Facebook post and started linking it on public forums or if it’s intended for a wider audience. Hopefully the former.

I admit though, I might be getting behind the times. If women are cool with this behavior now, I could probably start getting into it. Is it just kayaking and snowboarding chicks that are cool with this, or all women? Please critique my new greeting:

“What's up c-nt? Show me your tits. Damn bitch, I’m playing. Stop being some jamoke. jajajaja”

Wait, wait, I can do better...

“whu up c-nt?show me you’re tits whore damn bitch i playin.stop being jamoke jajajaja”

Isn’t jamoke kind of a racial slur too? I’m also not really down with racism, but then maybe it’s ok if you’re just joking around? Is there a “negros deep” Facebook page I could consult for moral affirmation?

Fortunately, one thing these guys are right about is that this behavior does not represent the majority of the next generation of kayakers. There are lots of talented, thoughtful, and respectful young kayakers out there with and without trust funds (trust funders are better though because they have better shuttle vehicles). I've enjoyed boating with many of them in Colorado. Being young isn't an excuse to act like an idiot and I’d be a lot more impressed to see more civic minded actions, but then how do I know they're not civic minded? Just because they put out some crappy immature video and follow it up with juvenile comments doesn’t necessarily mean they're not also doing more useful things with their lives - I hope.

In summary:
BDP video = no value
Bomb Flow video = high quality kayak porn
Real pornography = helpful for masturbation
Degrading and objectifying women = still bad
Objectifying jmack's body hair = always OK.
life = complicated

<Edit: mountainbuzz seems to censor "bad" words by replacing them with ****, lame.>
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Old 10-24-2012   #88
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Yeah BDP awesome

BDP "Mike Perry has a terrible work ethic and an ugly wife."
Just some of the work of the so glorious.

Sad anyone actually likes these guys anymore
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Old 10-24-2012   #89
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Bob, I think a jamoke is a subset of jabrones, but I 'm not sure being a GEEZER and all.

I don 't think these guys are really malicious, just trying to be funny /cool in poor taste...I find it odd that their female members and groupies go along with it.I guess people, especially youngsters just want to fit into their peer group...some of these ladies probably don 't like it but don 't say guess is most of BDP will be embarrassed by some of their actions when they grow up.

The most offensive posts on this thread, to me are by Matt HEE HAW !!!! Why do I gather you will be voting for Romney /Ryan, the real threat to women? Crawl back under your rock and pray for more war.This country will not make significant social progress until your type of thinking goes extinct or is at least relegated to guys like you being treated ss laughing stocks.Grow a brain please.
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Old 10-24-2012   #90
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Originally Posted by Shitouta View Post
It's too bad kayakers are wasting their energy talking shit about other kayakers when we should all be rallying together in our common hatred of our natural enemy: the creature craft.
Can regular rafters get in on this movement too? We'll carry the beer and bring steaks!

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