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Old 01-07-2007   #1
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Bailey questions

Two questions about Bailey:

When Dillion is near full, as it is now, Bailey runs early, doesn't it? In April?

I've heard that Deer Creek Rapid causes the most dislocated shoulder. Any one know why? Is it that slide that causes problems? If people flip on the slide, do they pop the shoulder out when trying to roll or just by rubbing along the bottom?

Anything new with that tree below Supermax?

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Old 01-07-2007   #2
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Dude... I really appreciate your service in Iraq, but what the hell are you talking about?
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BSOE you are hilarious.

Deer Creek rapid is just a good ol class V (V- in my humble opinion), but being upside down in there would be lucky to just come out with a dislocation...

Not the hardest moves, but it's super fast and if it goes wrong it's gonna happen amazingly quick.

Beyond that... as the great shultz would say... "I KNOW NOTHNG!" of overly dislocated situations.
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BSOE is talking about Baileys Irish Cream, a liqueur. Quite tasty and in this situation very funny.
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Old 01-07-2007   #6
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Whether Bailey runs has alot more to do with Denver's water needs than it has to do with how full Dillon is. If Chafield is getting filled without the extra water, Denver water will not turn Bailey on. Remember last spring with the front range snowstorms. They did not turn on Bailey until July. Given the low elevation snow pack we have in the front range this year, I wouldn't count on Bailey running in the spring (except maybe from natural flow).

As for Deer Creek, I've never seen anyone get hurt there, but it seems like a good rapid to run right-side-up. If people are getting hurt, its probably because they are going right instead of running the slide. The slide is more fun and its a cleaner line.

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Old 01-07-2007   #7
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oops- I meant spring before last, not last spring when Bailey ran all the time.
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Old 01-07-2007   #8
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Ok, that clears it up. I guess last time I read a BSOE post it was about giving hand jobs, so I wondered where that was going. Alright.... that's cool.
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I went through the bottom after the slide of Deer Creek upside down once. Cracked my helmut on a rock and took a beating. My buddy got pinned for a few seconds after missing the line through the last part of the drop, luckily pulling his skirt freed him. Many say its a 4 not a 5. Either way, don't under estimate it. I hate that rapid.
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Old 01-07-2007   #10
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bailey runs when denver is dry. otherwise the water tops the spillway and goes on north.
i always heard trash can causes the most problems in there. it's that funky junky rapid below supermax. enter left and then move right.
deer creek is pretty straight forward and the slide move into the elevator boof is one of the better lines in bailey.

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