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Old 01-20-2011   #11
Golden, Colorado
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Originally Posted by KSC View Post
Why does everything with Ture come back to poop? Anyway, I tend to agree with him in this case.
Sorry, I just got back from a quick trip to Costa Rica and I really do have explosive diarrhea so it has been on my mind all day (ate a bunch of old cheese while emptying my fridge on the last day... I hate throwing out food).

While I was there I asked a guy if he'd seen any kayakers on the steep creeks around the area I was. He said no way and asked me how they would be able to paddle up those things.

Ooops. Gotta go. Afraid to fart.

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Old 01-21-2011   #12
Front Range, Colorado
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KC- I'm not sure what your beef is with the Red Lion. It's ok to boat through there now and clearly dumping the current bridge in the creek bed would be unacceptable to anyone.

Have any of you worked with Boulder County? It's bad. I spend most of my days out sourcing BC jobs because of it. I've got numerous stories... too many to tell here but, the point is, they make it difficult to run a business. It's a shrinking tax base.

I've checked out the bridge and it's significantly better than many along Boulder Creek, The Poudre and SSV.

It also seems unfair to single out a business owner if others use the bridge or right of way.

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Old 01-21-2011   #13
Denver, Colorado
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You missed the boat zeus. The beef with the red lion is that the old bridge was a death trap that posed a safety hazard and a public safety hazard because it was so shitty that it fell into the creek. Thankfully no one was hurt.

Now the guy replaces one shitty bridge with another and doesn't live up to promises he made to the county.

Boulder County is another issue... The main issue is don't build shitty bridges and fuck up our creeks in the process.
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Old 01-22-2011   #14
Boulder, Colorado
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In defense of the guy who owns the Red Lion Inn: before the whole bridge debacle last spring, he was nothing but kind and generous to all boaters portaging over his property. He was generous enough to allow us to use the south side portage along the stairway and mini-lawns to put in below the dining area... Nothing but smiles and waves--really. Was he a little grouchy after the bridge blew out? Sure. I would have to agree with FrankC that the new RR bridge is most likely the highest quality bridge along the entire creek (with the exception of the 4-mile cross over, of course). Maybe this would be a good time for the county to step up and provide some support for reconstruction. This leverage might be used to allow for opening the right of way on the dirt road behind the Red Lion Inn and the Flagstaff Amphitheater--it's a nice, mellow climb on a dirt road that that the old lady at the bottom of the hill, whose house is by the gate, used to let us walk (not bike) through... Enough of history. This would seem like a good opportunity to, 1. get a decent bridge put in, and, 2. to maybe open up a great connecting route for cyclists/hikers to connect through to Flagstaff, Chautauqua... Pipe dream?

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