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Old 04-18-2010   #11
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While it's nice to have others in small boats, it's more important to have support boaters who are good at rescues and also good-humored about rescues.

I paddled it in a Jack's Pack Cat and swam five times, one life-threatening. If you go for the meat, you're going to dump. The water's big and often hard to predict.

Some days you'll be fearless, and others, paralyzed. So go for it when it feels right, and otherwise, look for those sneaker lines.

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Old 04-18-2010   #12
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Originally Posted by cayo 2 View Post
I am pretty sure those Torpedos were orange Tahitis with the plastic disc punched out to make one inefficient bailing hole
Many years ago we used a paper punch to make holes every half inch or so along the length of the seam between the tube and the floor of Tahitis. They bailed reasonably well but durability was an issue, especially in small steep creeks.

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Old 04-19-2010   #13
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I duckied the Grand last year. I skirted very little but got beaten down my fair share. That said, I am not as experienced as many. A few words of advice:

Put a little weight up front, perhaps a couple dry bags that are strapped down, to help you punch through holes. You'll flip a ton less. And of course, lean forward to punch through the big stuff.

Rig up a flip strap. Mine was a strap that went around the tube and fed thru one of the bailing holes. That way you can more easily self rescue.

I did it in a one-man ducky, but you'll get tossed a lot less if you have a two man, even if you're just paddling by yourself.

After taking these precautions, I swam much less in the latter part of the trip.
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Old 04-19-2010   #14
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McDevit! We ran Northgate together year before last and you cruised it. Did you use the same duckie on the Grand? Seems like it was pretty slow self-bailing, so you had to pull over between drops to let it drain.

The Grand Canyon's more Wagner than Mozart, no?
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Old 04-20-2010   #15
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Hey Chip! No, I used a one man Hyside, although I wonder how my yellow 2 man would have done. It is slow bailing, but in the Grand, as you well know, you don't need to maneuver all that much and the extra weight of the water might help to prevent you from being tossed around like a rag doll. Hope you're doing well. IF you're around in June, maybe we can run something! And yes, the Grand is a bit more Die Walkure than Le Nozze di Figaro.....
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Old 05-06-2010   #16
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Had good runs in every rapid in the SOAR.

Took a tandem hard canoe on the last trip.

Originally Posted by cayo 2 View Post
Never heard of a tandem ducky running it,probably has been.Has been run in a Sevylor Tahiti,the cheapest non-bailing ducky.A guy I know did it one man in a 2 man Lynx.
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Yes, but why limit yourself? Pacos give you so much more freedom!

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Ok, that's one of the coolest videos ever posted on mountainbuzz.

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