Yes everyone, people of all activities die on rivers. It is an unfortunate truth, yet accepted risk we all take when we leave dry land. The fact that someone starts a thread about this topic before there are any facts released about the event saddens me and makes me question one's needs in life. If they were a friend of yours, you will undoubtedly hear about it soon. My condolences to those of you that do get that sad news. For the rest of you, get off the cyber-gossip wagon and get a life.
No one was being disrespectful and like it or not, we live in the digital age. Be it a car crash that closes the highway, or a death on the river, it is going to make the news. This is a community of boaters that do have a interest in what goes on our beloved rivers. I can see that you are not one to be involved in this board from your very high post count of. If you were active here you would have seen how a lot of accident information is taken from this site and added to the AW log and record of river information. If changes need to be taken to how the rivers are administered, it would be as a result from this information and other factors. This applies mainly to commercials but privates can be effected too.
The river community is also quite small. There is usually only one to three degrees of separation from death in this community, except when it is a tourist and then someone usually knows the guide or the rescuers.
Yes everyone, people of all activities die on rivers. It is an unfortunate truth, yet accepted risk we all take when we leave dry land. The fact that someone starts a thread about this topic before there are any facts released about the event saddens me and makes me question one's needs in life. If they were a friend of yours, you will undoubtedly hear about it soon. My condolences to those of you that do get that sad news. For the rest of you, get off the cyber-gossip wagon and get a life.
It seems to me like it is very important that we know the information presented here. For example, I see that several people over the age of 60 have died recently in cold, high water swims. This is good information for me if tomorrow I have a 70 year old person that wants to be on my class 4 trip. I can cite this information when I either refuse service or try to convince them to do a milder trip. Those of us working on the river like to stay up to date on accidents/fatalities because it directly impacts the way we do are jobs and keep people as safe as we can. It's not gossip, and everyone here has a life. I hope your day gets better....
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It seems to me like it is very important that we know the information presented here. For example, I see that several people over the age of 60 have died recently in cold, high water swims. This is good information for me if tomorrow I have a 70 year old person that wants to be on my class 4 trip. I can cite this information when I either refuse service or try to convince them to do a milder trip. Those of us working on the river like to stay up to date on accidents/fatalities because it directly impacts the way we do are jobs and keep people as safe as we can. It's not gossip, and everyone here has a life. I hope your day gets better....
Well said. I think most of us are trying to learn and/or also express sympathy.
I am an infrequent poster myself but frequent reader. The information shared when a death occurs on the river is vitally important to all of us who kayak or raft. There is no morbidity involved here. The more I can learn about the unfortuante details of a river accident the better I can prepare myself for a similar situation as well as share that info with my river brothers and sisters to assure that we are all boating as safely as we can and are mindful of the risks that may be out there.
Yes everyone, people of all activities die on rivers. It is an unfortunate truth, yet accepted risk we all take when we leave dry land. The fact that someone starts a thread about this topic before there are any facts released about the event saddens me and makes me question one's needs in life. If they were a friend of yours, you will undoubtedly hear about it soon. My condolences to those of you that do get that sad news. For the rest of you, get off the cyber-gossip wagon and get a life.
Damn man, that's pretty cold. The only reason I started the thread is to try and the get the information out there that the accident happend, so that details can be shared, and hopefully learned from. Your statement is very disrespectful to more than just me, and that saddens me...
I'm pretty sure this poor guy was out much earlier in the run, but one big tip I can give right now is don't swim at house rock. I did yesterday and it was a bitch to swim myself out (and I'm 26). If you think there's a chance you might swim don't get in the Ark right now. I feel awful for his family and friends.
All the accidents this year, river related or not are very sad. Death, by nature is sad but mistakes are made so others can learn.
They say that in today's world, man's knowledge doubles every ten years. That means that everything we know from today back to the time of the caveman and before will be doubled by the year 2018. These boards and the ability to transfer and discuss these events is what is going to save people in the future. It sucks it happened, it sucks that Iraqis kill each other and that poor people exist but this is reality and the cyber world is also reality which provides lessons.
Sorry to those personal with this particular victim. Another reason to consider a swift water rescue course. It can't hurt.
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