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Old 09-09-2014   #81
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Originally Posted by chiapet74 View Post
How about the wussifiication of America, is that alright? Remember you people are choosing to be offended by his comments.
Nice try at redirecting, but failed. Language has a past that can be checked and understood. Let me correct that....

"ya'll are choosing to use offensive language to prove a point"

I do love the extra "you people" you threw in there ... another way of lumping ideas you disagree with into a generalized habit of other people. And if its not clear, its not so much about "me" being offended but about choosing to standup against language that harms the inclusiveness and openness of a community.

If you are actually interested in language that proves a point then I would recommend not using inherently derogatory language. But my guess is half the point is to be derogatory and tap into historically sexist terminology.


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Old 09-09-2014   #82
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Bullshit. An offensive comment is just that, regardless of how it is received. Statements such as his are offensive because of the intention or baggage of the language used. The sad thing about so much misogynistic language is that is is so accepted some people don't even realize what they are saying. So if no offense is intended, stop it.

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Old 09-09-2014   #84
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Originally Posted by chiapet74 View Post
How about the wussifiication of America, is that alright? Remember you people are choosing to be offended by his comments.
What I am offended by is that streetdoctor has twice now intentionally bullied someone off this forum. I would like to think that the boating community is more open and inclusive than that. He needs to deal with his homophobic and misognytic issues in a way other than attacking and bullying on a public forum.
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Old 09-09-2014   #85
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Originally Posted by brendodendo View Post

Haven't figured out how to call out this type of behavior though without further derailing what was a simple post.
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Old 09-09-2014   #86
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Sorry extremely sensitive people. I didn't feel the need to name every hyper sensitive person on this post so I used the term "you people". The hypocrisy of the offended is mind boggling. You people choose to be offended but at the same time demean and insult an opinion that isn't the same as yours, classic. I choose not to be offeded by your ignorance and instead find the humor in your attempts to be the judge and jury of all humans.
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You people are such a bunch of hypersensitive dickheads is anyone gonna accuse me of being a misandrist? No you won't cause that doesn't fit the leftwing talking points which are a knee jerk reaction to anything said about gays.

You people need to get a life and realize that streetdoctor couldn't give a shit about your pc bs. The gay guy who initiated this thread brought on any negative responses-I don't see people putting posts up here that they want to boat with heteros-oh you would accuse them of being homophobic at that point. Also, saying something derogatory about gays doesn't make you homophobic. I know a lot of folks who disagree based on religious views are are just gay bashers burt aren't necessarily afraid or threatened by gays.

Also WTF is this new term lgbtq? I'll say one thing gays love to label themselves and throw their sexuality in the face of others-why?
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Sorry original OP for contaminating this thread even more...

As a female kayaker, yeah, it's really fucking annoying/disrespectful and sometimes downright demoralizing to hear the guys use "like a girl" "pussy" "limp wrist" or other anti-masculine words to as a way to talk shit. I had to look for a while (like, 3 years) before I found a (completely male except for myself and one other chick) crew that is supportive and doesn't constantly use homophobic or misogynistic slurs as a way of "bonding". We talk shit all the time, we just don't bring gender or sexual orientation into it- unlike the vast majority of the bro-brah kayak culture currently.

I totally get why the original OP wants to boat with people who aren't WILLFUL ASSHOLES, hope he can find some.
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Still an empathetic deep thinker I see Mr.C While IMO some people are going overboard,'you people ' arguing a variation of the reverse discrimination argument are full of it.You try to turn the whole dynamic of discrimination upside down, that if the traditionally dominant group advocating or reinforcing attitudes that have lead to discrimination are CRITICIZED that they are being mistreated on par with those who have been the victims of actual discrimination.No one is taking your rights from you .You can say and think whatever you want .You ,like religious zealots,have no right to be exempt from criticism,put on a pedestal,and have your white straight male christian capitalist asses kissed for eternity cuz you are the heroes that won WWII singlehandedly and are good at greed.How's that for a stereotype
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