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Additional GC Lotteries

Just in from the Park.

Rich Phillips


We are writing to let you know that two lotteries will be open for the next week, one for canceled 2007 dates and the other for canceled 2008 dates.

Both of these lotteries will accept applications through the lottery website from October 19th, 2007 through noon on October 24th, 2007.

The 2007 follow-up lottery includes a total of 5 launch dates which are for standard size groups (1 to 16 people):
November 2007: 19th, 30th
December 2007: 18th, 25th, and 26th

The 2008 follow-up lottery includes a total of 11 launch dates which are for standard size groups (1 to 16 people):
January 2008: 1st, 12th, 14th, 15th, 21st, and 24th
March 2008: 5th
November 2008: 6th and 8th
December 2008: 13th and 22nd

Note, quite a few of these dates were won by applicants in the previous lottery who immediately canceled before paying their deposits. While these people did not lose any money aside of the lottery fee, they did have their chances reset to 1. CHANCES ARE RESET TO 1 IF YOU WIN (whether or not you end up going on the trip). Chance are not reset if you lose.

applicant wins, they cannot change their list of potential alternate trip leaders (PATLs), so if you do choose to apply, we encourage you to LIST AT LEAST ON PATL ON YOUR LOTTERY APPLICATION.

If you are interested in one of these launches, please login at and click on "Create Application" under the lottery for which you wish to apply. Individuals are eligible to apply in one or both lotteries as long as they are at least 18 years old and not already members of other noncommercial or commercial trips launching in the same calendar year as the desired launch date. No person may be listed on more than 1 application within any year's lottery. The lottery drawings will take place in the afternoon of October 24th, and email notifications will be sent by October 25th.

If you cannot remember your password, you can have it reset and sent to the email address you listed in your lottery profile by completing the form at: If you need help submitting an application online or navigating the website, please send us an email to or call 1-800-959-9164. We are happy to help. The River Office is open weekdays from 8am to 5pm.

You have been sent this courtesy email in response to the preferences you indicated when setting up your profile which has a username of "".
You can change your preferences, address, and email accounts any time by logging into your account.

In the lottery system, people may each have only one account. A LOTTERY WINNER HAVING MORE THAN ONE ACCOUNT MAY HAVE THEIR WINNING TRIP REVOKED. If you have two profiles on the system or you received two or more emails listing different login names then this issue must be resolved prior to the lottery. Please contact, include the login name of the profile you want deleted, and ask us to delete the account).

We wish good luck to all who apply in these lotteries.

Steve Sullivan

P.S. We expect to hold the calendar year 2009 main lottery in February 2008.

River Office Contact Information:

Phone: 800-959-9164 or 928-638-7843
Fax: 928-638-7844
FAQ page:

web info: Grand Canyon National Park (U.S. National Park Service) - click on River Permits
Grand Canyon National Park - Helpful Links for Noncommercial River Trips (U.S. National Park Service)

U.S. Postal Service Mailing Address:
River Permits Office
P.O. Box 129
Grand Canyon, AZ 86023-0129

Address for Other Mailing Services:
River Permits Office
#1 Village Loop Road
Grand Canyon, AZ 86023
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