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Old 02-01-2007   #1
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Additional GC Launches Available

The Grand Canyon National Park River Office has advised that during the week of 2/5/07 through 2/9/07, it will be releasing 9 Grand Canyon river permits through a call-in system.

These permits will be for launching on 2/26/07, 3/6/07, 3/9/07, 3/16/07, 3/24/07, 4/11/07, 4/15/07, 5/5/07, and 6/11/07.

You must be registered to try to claim one of these dates. If you're not already registered, the GC Lottery website is

Good luck

Rich Phillips

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Old 02-01-2007   #2
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And what are the specifics and phone number for this crap shoot.

I tried for 8 days to get a Deso permit and it was just a big waste of time.

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Old 02-01-2007   #3
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So all of the sudden the Park is proactive about Private launches. Hmmmm. sj
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Old 02-01-2007   #4
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Under this new system, you have to first register here
and then you can be eligible for the call-in. All of the information is on the Park web site. Calling in without registering will not work for you.

Good luck.

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Old 02-02-2007   #5
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rich, thanks for all the updates, even though we are pretty cynical about the chances....
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Old 02-03-2007   #6
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Hi all, here's the rest of the story, yours, Tom

February 3, 2007

Officials at Grand Canyon National Park will conduct a phone call-in for nine noncommercial river permits. The call-in period will be the week of February 5 to February 9, 2007.

The permit dates are for 2/26/07, 3/6/07, 3/9/07, 3/16/07, 3/24/07, 4/11/07, 4/15/07, 5/5/07, and 6/11/07.

According to the National Park Service, the call-in is only open to individuals who have registered a profile at before calling in. There is no fee to create a profile.

In the profile process, the National Park Service assigns everyone who registers a certain quantity of points for the number of years since their last Grand Canyon river trip. More points are assigned for a longer time since the last trip. The call-in system is based on those points, giving priority to individuals with the greatest number of points. According to the park’s web site, this is “to give persons who have not been on the Colorado River for awhile a better chance of success than those who have been more recently.” This is in stark contrast to how individuals gain access to the river through the park’s river concessionaires. There is no profiling based on points, elapsed time or anything else for concessions river trip customers.

For noncommercial river runners, Grand Canyon National Park officials have arranged the call-in system as follows:

Individuals with 12 or more points can call in on Monday, Feb 5.
Individuals with 9 or more points can call in on Tuesday, Feb 6.
Individuals with 6 or more points can call in on Wednesday, Feb 7.
Individuals with 3 or more points can call in on Thursday, Feb 8.
Individuals with any number of points can call in on Friday, Feb 9.

The Park will keep potential callers apprised of claimed permits by updating their answering machine (800-959-9164) at the end of business each day. Potential callers are encouraged to call in early, beginning at 8:00 a.m. Mountain Standard Time, to claim a date.

Winners awarded a permit will have to pay an immediate non-refundable deposit of $400, and will be charged an additional $25 if they did not participate in the fall 2007 lotteries. According to park officials, all river travelers are restricted to participating in only one river trip per year. Any unclaimed launches after February 9th will remain available on a first-call, first served basis.

According to the park, the first noncommercial lottery for 2008 will be held in March of this year. This will occur after the 2008 river concessionaires launch scheduling is completed.

Additional information is available at the Grand Canyon National Park website at
or by contacting the River Permits Office at:

Phone: 800-959-9164 or 928-638-7843, Fax: 928-638-7844, Email:, or on the web at: - click on River Permits

U.S. Postal Service Mailing Address:
River Permits Office
P.O. Box 129
Grand Canyon, AZ 86023-0129

Address for Other Mailing Services:
River Permits Office
#1 Village Loop Road
Grand Canyon, AZ 86023

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