4yo on Flipped Raft

[caspermike]

Originally Posted by boateralacure

no way, nobody put a gun the famliys head and told them to get on the raft, that what happens when you go rafting, shit like that can happen the parents need to look at that then deciede if the risk is to high it is the parnets fault not the company

texans do not comprehend what is going on at the moment. the rivers are high and they don't understand the river one bit. for the company to let the boy on regardless is the problem, the guide knew better than anybody.

[Randaddy]

Who to blame? Hmmm.... I blame every fat POS from Texas that comes rafting for doing something they shouldn't. I blame every parent that shows up with tiny kids for an adventure trip. It's the age of information and these people have the internet in their SUV's, so watch a video, read up, and learn what "whitewater rafting" is!

Obviously companies need to set higher standards (age AND weight), but to say that the parents aren't to blame because they are from Texas and don't know any better is ridiculous. Would they hike their 4 year old down Bright Angel in the Grand Canyon in 110 degree heat because it's allowed? It's not Disneyland folks, and personal responsibility is a pretty important part of parenting.

At least the kid came rafting before he was the mature 300 pounds that many of his fellow tourists weigh in at!

[DurangoSteve]

I've been trying to make the point that rafting, especially on the Arkansas, IS sold as a splashy theme park ride. Some of the raft co's don't try to dispel it and the tourons buy it. In my less-than-humble-opinion, it's a SHARED responsibility thang. Nobody gets off the hook.

Originally Posted by Randaddy

Who to blame? Hmmm.... I blame every fat POS from Texas that comes rafting for doing something they shouldn't. I blame every parent that shows up with tiny kids for an adventure trip. It's the age of information and these people have the internet in their SUV's, so watch a video, read up, and learn what "whitewater rafting" is!

Obviously companies need to set higher standards (age AND weight), but to say that the parents aren't to blame because they are from Texas and don't know any better is ridiculous. Would they hike their 4 year old down Bright Angel in the Grand Canyon in 110 degree heat because it's allowed? It's not Disneyland folks, and personal responsibility is a pretty important part of parenting.

At least the kid came rafting before he was the mature 300 pounds that many of his fellow tourists weigh in at!

[Randaddy]

Steve, you're absolutely right. I've refused to take really small kids rafting before and my employer backed me up. It's really up to those of us working and interacting with the customers to keep our employers informed and honest.

I still think we should give Texas back to Mexico though...

[DurangoSteve]

We should try to sell it back to them first, but when that fails, we should give it to Mexico. Then we should build a really expensive wall and require visas for Texicans...

Originally Posted by Randaddy

Steve, you're absolutely right. I've refused to take really small kids rafting before and my employer backed me up. It's really up to those of us working and interacting with the customers to keep our employers informed and honest.

I still think we should give Texas back to Mexico though...

[chiefton]

If you are going to throw glass stones you probably shouldn't live in a house.

[Randaddy]

You are very wise Chiefton. Are you from Texas? If you are I will throw glass bottles at you. Wild Turkey bottles.