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Old 03-02-2005   #11
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BK is a Wavesport paddler and I'm sure that he's paddled a ton of other boats besides his current sponsor's....but guess what....who cares if he's talking up a particular boat? I don't give a shit and you shouldn't let it get to you either....would you expect anything different from a sponsored paddler but praise for his sponsor's boats? And in a thread about the new boats from his sponsor? Sounds like you need to grow up.

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Old 03-02-2005   #12
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Sweet! This thread is the new "Treasure Canyon"!

(( PS, Stiff .. while you have a point about it being Bryan's job to promote his sponsor, you are free to disregard the post without feeling compelled to do forensics on the user ID & make lame comments. All he said is "try this before you buy that" -- not "dirty" strategy. And furthermore, show some freakin' respect to one of the most accomplished pro kayakers on the planet. ))

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Old 03-02-2005   #13
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I am sorry if my detective joke offended you. It was just that... A JOKE! I was very amused that somebody took the time to investigate a person's profile. I did not mean to offend or upset you. My guess is that you own a Fun and you thought he was ripping on the Fun. I can't speak for BryanK but I do think he was not implying that.

BUT---I do, however, think you are taking this WAY to seriously!!!! It's funny how one person's perspective can differ from another about what a post means. I got that BryanK was telling people to simply TRY this boat before you buy anohter boat. You obviously got something completely different.

You are right about people being BIASED about boats. EVERY PADDLER is biased, not just pro's and rep's. But, BryanK's post WAS NOT biased. He simply said to TRY this boat.

Technology and R&D have created better boats!! It's a fact. There IS a difference between a Fun and a EZG. Whether or not you like one over the other is up to you(the individual paddler) to decide. BryanK made his decision about this boat and wanted to express how much he enjoyed it, and then he said TRY this boat. I for one, would love to take the advice of one of the best paddlers in the world about how good a boat might be.

BTW- I doubt that Wave Sport is concerned about the Jackson boats, you made that up all on your own.
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Old 03-02-2005   #14
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I think bryank should have said he is a sponsor of Wavesport boats.

I think it is a little underhanded for him to say "TRY this boat before you buy a Fun"
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Old 03-02-2005   #15
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Yer right Stiff. He's a sly devil, that guy ... tryin' to milk ya for every last penny ... And don't let him around your sister either.
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me thinks bryank has lots of friends who are saying, aw, it's OK for him to be deceptive.
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Old 03-02-2005   #17
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If you think that's deceptive, you oughtta come to my 'hood for some poker sometime.

Bring lots of cash.
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Old 03-02-2005   #18
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What was I thinking. I let Brian talk me into a Head Trip Helmet last year. He showed me his and told me how it would be the best protection for my head from a hard impact. Now I find out he's a sponsored paddler for Wavesport and Head Trip? What a crock that guy must have been spewing. Biased SOB!

But the helmet did save my head if not my life...hmmm. Maybe he actually knows about the products that are out there?

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Stiffie for BK

Stiffie. Is that what you have for Bryan? Are you trolling or R U 4 real? Are you going to slam Hobie for promoting Dagger kayaks on the Buzz, or is it ok because he signs Hobie/ Dagger kayaks. (sorry Hobie you're just my example) Or is it ok because he is a good local boy that we all know??? Either way sounds like you had an OD on Viagra. Take a deep breath, water is on the way, Stiffler !
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Old 03-02-2005   #20
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At your size the Diesel 65 would be a dream for what you said you want it for.
I've paddled the EZG 50 a handful of times now. To be honest, I've never paddled a boat that actually lived up to the hype like this boat does. It is twice as loose and fast as the EZ was on waves, and it cartwheels like a dream.
BK has a second post, as you may know. He is reported to have a relationship with Wavesport and is promoting it's products. It sounds like he is doing his job, but his approach is troubling. In the case of the Diesel, the poster was probably looking for independent advice on a boat. What was the reply? I'd call it a sales pitch. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but I think it's appropriate to disclose a bias in this situation. I like to know the source of all the information I get. I think it is useful to put information into context, it's just more useful that way. So maybe it's not a big deal, but I went back and read the original post and it smells like spray. I should also say that I think the fun comment was totally inappropriate. I hope that in the future, commercial posters will identify themselves and their professional relationships. Transparency and forthrightness are good things, don't you think? I also think that it is disrespectful to this on line community to (semi-)anonymously puff products. I realize that it goes on and probably won't stop anytime soon.
All of this being said, I wouldn't mind trying the ezg's this year. Too bad there is no such thing as a student discount for kayaks.


-ohh yeah, I'm not a pro and I have old crappy gear.

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