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Old 03-24-2011   #1
Santa Cruz, California
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10 years off the river

I have been out of kayaking for over 10 years and paddled the other day with my son, class III.
I had a tough time in a jackson 4 fun, new boat to me, of course everything is new to me now.
I use to boat class IV with no problem, but the other day i couldn't roll very good and couple of times and had to swim.
I am in bad shape and out of practice, for sure.
My son was using a necky jive, and he is just a beginner and had no problem.
Of course he is 30 years younger than me.
Anyone have any good ideas of a boat that might be easier for me to learn in again, i feel like a beginnner again.
What should i do to get back into it, would like to go boating with my kids.
Maybe a necky jive for me also ?
what do you think.
thanks for the help and happy and safe boating, spring is just around the corner.

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Old 03-25-2011   #2
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Be careful so it's not a coffin you roll in

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Old 03-25-2011   #3
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Bob, good lucking getting back in the boat.

The jackson fun is a good boat, but smaller boats can have a tough learning curve.

If you want a more forgiving boat, a bigger river runner / creek boat might fit the bill. Jackson hero or superhero, dagger mamba, etc.might be easier for your transition back.

The bigger boats are more stable, and are less punishing is you aren't 100% on your lean and edge. They also float you higher and are less likely to have edges that will trip you up.

Colorado kayak supply has a good website that has some explanation of new boat designs and pics of all of them.

Rolls get rusty. Practice it in the pool or calm water and you'll get it back.

Good luck.
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Old 03-25-2011   #4
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What did you used to paddle? Find one of them or something similar till you feel it again.
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Old 03-25-2011   #5
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Hey Bob,

I have been a rafter for about 12 years and just picked up kayaking last season. I decided to finally spring for a boat this season and went with a Jackson Hero. So far I've had it in the pool and on 5-6 II-III runs. My experience with it so far is that it is incredibly forgiving, super easy to roll, and an all around awesome boat. Plus the outfitting is great, very easy to adjust. I would highly recommend looking into the hero if you want a good all around river runner.

That said, I will probably be borrowing some friends playboats quite a bit as well. Anyway, my 2 cents.

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Old 03-25-2011   #6
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another great boat that's in the same cat. as the Hero is the liquid Logic Remix it's a much different design; longer, narrower and faster. but super comfy and rolls soooo easy.
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Old 03-25-2011   #7
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It is recommended that you choose a river runner or creek boat. Freestyle/Rodeo boats are not very stable or forgiving. There are lots of good boats to choose from, but I am most fond of Jackson and Wave Sport. Both have great designs. I especially like the comfort of Wave Sport boats. You might want to consider the JK Hero and Villlain, or the WS Diesel or Habitat. Other considerations could be the Dagger Mamba or LL Remix.

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Old 03-25-2011   #8
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I would recommend that you not get a creek boat. At least at this time. I think it would be too far the other way. Any of the mentioned river runners are solid boats. You'll want something with an edge, just to give you some good control.
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Old 03-27-2011   #9
Santa Cruz, California
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thanks for the advise everyone.
I think i will look on craigs lists and see what is around.
I have a dagger vertigo that i have pracitced rolling pool but never on the river.
Anyone know much about the vertigo and how stable and easy to roll.

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